Re: [alto] Questions on ALTO elements identified in the ALTO problem statement

Eric Burger <eburger@standardstrack.com> Tue, 07 July 2009 19:34 UTC

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All of the "elements" are logical. Whether an element is instantiated  
on a big honking mainframe at a service provider or a distributed p2p  
ring, is simply an implementation matter. However, we need to talk  
about a well-known, locatable "service" that offer the ALTO "stuff."   
We tend to call that thing a "server."

On Jul 6, 2009, at 7:06 PM, Linda Dunbar wrote:

> ALTO problem statement depicted architecture of the ALTO server and  
> ALTO
> client. I find this "ALTO Server" is not very practical.
>
> For public servers which provide contents (like video streaming), they
> already registered at DHCP which provides ways for individual users  
> to find
> the optimal route to the nearest server.
>
> For pure P2P applications, the duration of the applications is short  
> and
> chance of them re-appearing is not high. Therefore it will be  
> difficult for
> ALTO server to maintain all the needed information to achieve the
> optimization. Besides, what motivate P2P software to provide a hook  
> to ALTO
> server?
>
> Linda Dunbar
>
>
>
>
>
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> This draft is a work item of the Application-Layer Traffic  
> Optimization
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>
> 	Title           : Application-Layer Traffic Optimization (ALTO)
> Problem Statement
> 	Author(s)       : J. Seedorf, E. Burger
> 	Filename        : draft-ietf-alto-problem-statement-02.txt
> 	Pages           : 14
> 	Date            : 2009-07-03
>
> Peer-to-peer applications, such as file sharing, real-time
> communication, and live and on-demand media streaming use a
> significant amount of Internet resources.  Such applications often
> transfer large amounts of data in peer-to-peer connections.  However,
> they usually have little knowledge of the underlying network
> topology.  As a result, they may choose their peers randomly with
> respect to the underlying network topology or they may choose their
> peers based on measurements and statistics that, in many situations,
> may lead to suboptimal choices.  This document describes problems
> related to improving traffic generated by peer-to-peer applications.
> In particular, this document discusses issues which better-than-
> random peer selection based on network-layer information may raise.
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