Re: [alto] New Incremental Update draft

Hans Seidel <hseidel@benocs.com> Thu, 01 October 2015 14:46 UTC

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Wendy, Richard,

great work.

One question that came up while reading:

1. Is it allowed to use "start-updates" and "stop-updates" in one HTTP 
request? I found nothing specific that neither supports nor contradicts 
that.
     Intuitively, I would say no, it is not allowed to have both in one 
request but I am not entirely convinced.

Hans


On 29.09.2015 17:48, Y. Richard Yang wrote:
> To add to the info by Wendy, we want the list to know that following 
> the spirit of running code, the team of ALTO@ODL is also starting to 
> do the implementation of SSE. If you have interest, please let us know.
>
> Richard
>
> On Tuesday, September 29, 2015, Wendy Roome 
> <w.roome@alcatel-lucent.com <mailto:w.roome@alcatel-lucent.com>> wrote:
>
>     Folks,
>
>     Richard & I updated the incremental update draft:
>
>     https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.ietf.org_internet-2Ddrafts_draft-2Dietf-2Dalto-2Dincr-2Dupdate-2Dsse-2D01.txt&d=AwICAg&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=4G36iiEVb2m_v-0RnP2gx9KZJjYQgfvrOCE3789JGIA&m=DOFJXxQJVz_ERNgTqwtat30JEEXyPxEyMPYBPvV8rqY&s=slfp3TRkN394bivOqmD24pjhcrOGj7qyTMNTJYVSBIQ&e=
>
>
>     The primary change was I added a mechanism to let a client tell
>     the server
>     to close the stream. This shuts the stream down quickly & cleanly. The
>     client can just close the stream, of course, but that can take a
>     while for
>     the server to detect, and it looks like an I/O error.
>
>     Section 3 summarizes the other changes, most of which are
>     clarifications.
>
>     The Alcatel-Lucent public server,
>     https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__alto.alcatel-2Dlucent.com-3A8000_directory&d=AwICAg&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=4G36iiEVb2m_v-0RnP2gx9KZJjYQgfvrOCE3789JGIA&m=DOFJXxQJVz_ERNgTqwtat30JEEXyPxEyMPYBPvV8rqY&s=TWWzEEQgxCMd17ICx7chi8-DKni-0kcxNL1SVxaxFAo&e=
>     , provides an Update Stream
>     resource as described in the -01 draft. The server updates the default
>     network map every 60 minutes (approximately), and every 5 minutes it
>     updates a few routingcost values for the default network map and a few
>     property values.
>
>     Note that because that server handles the interop test network, the
>     updates just replace the current values with the same values. But that
>     counts as an update in my server, so it exercises all of the update
>     plumbing.
>
>     One wart: when you create a new Update Stream, the initial response is
>     delayed for 50 seconds. I don't know what causes that delay, but
>     it only
>     happens on this particular server, and it is very repeatable. That
>     server
>     is in our corporate DMZ, so it may be a result of the firewall, or
>     routing, or some other security feature. In any case, once you get
>     over
>     the initial 50 second delay, subsequent updates arrive quickly.
>
>     Oh yes, I could not find an SSE library, so I had to write my own.
>     I would
>     greatly appreciate it if other people could try it and verify that
>     my SSE
>     implementation meets the specification.
>
>             - Wendy Roome
>
>
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