Re: [Anima-bootstrap] bootstrap design team

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Wed, 18 May 2016 23:50 UTC

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From: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
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On 19/05/2016 02:10, Max Pritikin (pritikin) wrote:
> Greetings,
> 
> Today’s bootstrap design team notes can be found from the wiki:
> 	https://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/anima/trac/wiki/Bootstrap
> 
> But a quick summary of what we’ve been doing:
> 
> 1. Implementation experience and editing feedback was captured in a number of EDNOTES into the document. We have been going through these EDNOTES and deciding how to resolve them. 
> 
> 2. In the most recent call the format of the onwire messages was discussed. Kent Watson joined and we went through the formats from netconf/anima with a goal of aligning these formats to the point where a single common message type can be used. 

Looking at the notes, I assume that you will end up with something like a YANG or JSON
construct. Just a reminder, the only constraint for GRASP is that the 'value' can be
encoded in CBOR, which is not really much of a constraint at all and makes either
YANG or JSON fine. The mappings are documented already:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-veillette-core-yang-cbor-mapping
https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7049#section-4

Regards
   Brian