Re: [Anima] FW: New Version Notification for draft-behringer-anima-reference-model-00.txt
"Jonathan Hansford" <jonathan@hansfords.net> Mon, 08 December 2014 10:14 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Anima] FW: New Version Notification for draft-behringer-anima-reference-model-00.txt
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Hi, I know you are looking for high level comments, but I'm just getting my head round the goals of anima and have some low level editorial comments. Hope you don't mind: * Section 2, MASA: o Is MASA an acronym? I assume the ASA stands for Autonomic Service Agent, but I could be wrong. o s/The MASA is service/The MASA is a service * Section 3: I just don't understand the 2nd sentence. Is it trying to say that section 2 describes the "boxes"? If so, wouldn't it be better to say 'Section 2, The Network View, describes the "boxes".'? Or are you trying to say section 3 describes the boxes identified in section 2? Is the intent to have a diagram in section 2 that has boxes, lines and arrows (see section 7)? * Section 3.1: o This states there are two levels inside an autonomic node but then only appears to mention one: 'the level of autonomic service agents'. Is the other level the autonomic networking infrastructure? If so, perhaps it could say 'Fundamentally, there are two levels inside an autonomic node: that of the autonomic service agents and that of the autonomic networking infrastructure, with the former using the functions of the latter.' o Though "Intent" is capitalised in this section, it isn't anywhere else (figure 1 and section 7.3). I presume in each case this is a reference to Intent as defined in draft-irtf-nmrg-autonomic-network-definitions, in which case drawing the definition through and capitalising throughout might be a good idea. * Section 7: o Again, a confusing reference to section 2. o Do you mean the "summary" of autonomic interactions forms the ACP? Summary doesn't feel like the right word. Might "totality" be better? * Section 7.1: o You identify information as being provided through configuration or northbound interfaces and indicate autonomic functions should only minimally rely on the interfaces. Does that imply a greater reliance on configuration, or should it minimally rely on both configuration and the interfaces? o s/neigbhour/neighbour * Section 9.1: s/in theory by attempted/in theory be attempted Jonathan > -----Original Message----- > From: Anima [mailto:anima-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Michael > Behringer (mbehring) > Sent: 17 October 2014 13:32 > To: anima@ietf.org > Subject: [Anima] FW: New Version Notification for draft-behringer-anima- > reference-model-00.txt > > Here the first version of the reference draft. The sections need a lot more > work, but the structure should be a good starting point. Before diving into > the details (where we'll have no doubt lots of detailed comments), I'd like to > ask specifically about high level comments regarding structure, what is > missing, etc. > > Michael > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: <mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org> internet-drafts@ietf.org [ <mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org> mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org] > > Sent: 17 October 2014 14:30 > > To: Michael Behringer (mbehring); Brian E. Carpenter; Michael > > Behringer (mbehring); Toerless Eckert (eckert); Brian Carpenter; > > Toerless Eckert > > (eckert) > > Subject: New Version Notification for draft-behringer-anima-reference- > > model-00.txt > > > > > > A new version of I-D, draft-behringer-anima-reference-model-00.txt > > has been successfully submitted by Michael H. Behringer and posted to > > the IETF repository. > > > > Name: draft-behringer-anima-reference-model > > Revision: 00 > > Title: A Reference Model for Autonomic Networking > > Document date: 2014-10-17 > > Group: Individual Submission > > Pages: 9 > > URL: <http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-behringer-anima-> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-behringer-anima- > > reference-model-00.txt > > Status: <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-behringer-anima-> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-behringer-anima- > > reference-model/ > > Htmlized: <http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-behringer-anima-reference-> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-behringer-anima-reference- > > model-00 > > > > > > Abstract: > > This document describes a reference model for Autonomic Networking. > > The goal is to define how the various elements in an autonomic > > context work together, to describe their interfaces and relations. > > > > > > > > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of > > submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > > > The IETF Secretariat > > _______________________________________________ > Anima mailing list > <mailto:Anima@ietf.org> Anima@ietf.org > <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/anima> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/anima
- [Anima] FW: New Version Notification for draft-be… Michael Behringer (mbehring)
- Re: [Anima] FW: New Version Notification for draf… Jonathan Hansford
- Re: [Anima] FW: New Version Notification for draf… Michael Behringer (mbehring)
- Re: [Anima] FW: New Version Notification for draf… Michael Behringer (mbehring)