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Re: [Anima] Benjamin Kaduk's Discuss on draft-ietf-anima-autonomic-control-plane-19: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

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From: "Eric Vyncke (evyncke)" <evyncke@cisco.com>
To: Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de>, Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu>
CC: "anima-chairs@ietf.org" <anima-chairs@ietf.org>, "draft-ietf-anima-autonomic-control-plane@ietf.org" <draft-ietf-anima-autonomic-control-plane@ietf.org>, The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>, "anima@ietf.org" <anima@ietf.org>, "jiangsheng@huawei.com" <jiangsheng@huawei.com>
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Subject: Re: [Anima] Benjamin Kaduk's Discuss on draft-ietf-anima-autonomic-control-plane-19: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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Toerless

Thank you for this updated revision. 

About the next steps:

On 04/02/2020, 05:49, "iesg on behalf of Toerless Eckert" <iesg-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of tte@cs.fau.de> wrote:

    Hi Benjamin

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    > That said, my one Discuss point is not the end of the road for things;
    > since as I understand it the WG has already considered the topic
    > extensively, it may be time to check with the responsible AD about bringing
    > the document back on a telechat with, e.g., an alternate ballot procedure
    > ("single-discuss" or the full-on "alternate procedure" from
    > https://ietf.org/standards/process/iesg-ballots/).  I don't remember
    > hearing much from any other IESG members on this topic, at least as of yet.
    
    Not quite sure i follow everything you say: My understanding is that
    E'ric is now the responsible AD for the document, so we authors will simply
    follow his guidance for any further necessary AD review .
    
    Given how we already had a lot of exhaustive and good reviews and resulting
    fixes, i hope the poor ADs will not be forced to repeat potentialy unnecessary
    work on such a big document given how the fixes are all well documented and
    also summarized now in the changelog (summarizing IESG review up to -21 and explaining
    that there are no fundamental changes just a good amount of detail fixes
    and textual improvements).  But this is my first RFC as big as this,
    so i have no prior good experience with the process in a case like this.

As I am the 'poor' responsible AD now, with the amount of changes in the document, an IETF-wide Last Call is required to ensure a swift process. As soon as I am confident that -22 is 'good to go', then I will start this Last Call, then IESG evaluation, ballot and telechat and hopefully the document will be approved before the new IESG.

Regards,

-éric

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