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Re: [Anima] A reminder of why we need ANIMA

Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> Wed, 28 October 2020 00:20 UTC

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Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2020 01:20:22 +0100
From: Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de>
To: Artur Hecker <Artur.Hecker@huawei.com>
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Subject: Re: [Anima] A reminder of why we need ANIMA
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Gee, christmas already in October ?

http://tools.ietf.org/tools/rfcdiff/rfcdiff.pyht?url1=https://raw.githubusercontent.com/anima-wg/autonomic-control-plane/905f21becaa50760419c3ba28d8df4bb82e7a911/draft-ietf-anima-autonomic-control-plane/draft-ietf-anima-autonomic-control-plane.txt&url2=https://raw.githubusercontent.com/anima-wg/autonomic-control-plane/64d5f691f350984383eb573de01afdddaefe33ed/draft-ietf-anima-autonomic-control-plane/draft-ietf-anima-autonomic-control-plane.txt

Thanks Brian, Artur. That was the missing piece of marketing collateral for the RFC.

Cheers
    Toerless

On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 01:49:08PM +0000, Artur Hecker wrote:
> Brian, all
> 
> 
> Great reference, thanks for sharing!
> 
> Quote: "engineers almost immediately recognized that they had misdiagnosed the problem.  However, they were unable to resolve the issue by restoring the link, because the network management tools required to do so remotely relied on the same paths they had just disabled???.
> 
> This is why we need an adaptive, virtually in-band control plane. Programmable, software-driven networks will strongly amplify this effect. To me, out-of-band control plane is a misconception of virtualization ???? (have 2 networks, use 1), and it must still be adaptive & omnipresent.
> 
> Also nice: recommendations of the Bureau to the operators. 
> 
> 
> Artur
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Anima <anima-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Brian E Carpenter
> > Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2020 7:40 PM
> > To: Anima WG <anima@ietf.org>
> > Subject: [Anima] A reminder of why we need ANIMA
> > 
> > Hi ANIMA,
> > 
> > I think the document below is a timely reminder of why we *need* truly
> > autonomic networks that are not subject to human misconfiguration errors.
> > Start reading at "Root Cause and Event Summary".
> > 
> >    Brian
> > 
> > -------- Forwarded Message --------
> > Subject: how to misconfigurer ospf and take out your cellullar net
> > Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2020 09:31:46 +0000
> > From: jon.crowcroft@cl.cam.ac.uk
> > 
> > https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-367699A1.docx
> > 
> > 
> > jon
> > 
> > 
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