Re: [Anima] Benjamin Kaduk's Discuss on draft-ietf-anima-autonomic-control-plane-16: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Thu, 02 August 2018 02:09 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Anima] Benjamin Kaduk's Discuss on draft-ietf-anima-autonomic-control-plane-16: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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On 02/08/2018 12:30, Benjamin Kaduk wrote:
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> DISCUSS:
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> In particular, in its current form, it's not clear to me why this document
> is targeting the standards-track -- there are lots of places where
> determinations of what works best or how to do some things is left for
> future work.

We had no choice, because this is a normative reference for GRASP, since
GRASP requires at least one secure transport substrate.

It's true, I think, that the draft could do a better job of
separating the well-defined normative requirements from the issues
that are to a considerable extent implementation-dependent. But I
don't agree that it's at the Experimental stage, because it has a
pedigree in proprietary code. Please consider that it is only
asking for *Proposed* Standard status.

> I also think the document needs to be more clear about what security
> properties it does or does not intend to provide: 

I agree that this could be more clearly stated. By implication,
it's this:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-anima-grasp-15#section-2.5.1

    Brian