Re: [Anima] Comment to your presentation on draft-ciavaglia-anima-knowledge-00

Jéferson Campos Nobre <jcnobre@inf.ufrgs.br> Sat, 09 April 2016 02:50 UTC

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From: Jéferson Campos Nobre <jcnobre@inf.ufrgs.br>
Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2016 02:50:28 +0000
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Subject: Re: [Anima] Comment to your presentation on draft-ciavaglia-anima-knowledge-00
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Hi Laurent.
Just to add up the question I was asking when you became offline...
It is more a clarification: are you proposing to use different data
models/protocols in ANIMA than the ones used in other WGs? Or you are
describing the requirements for the data models/protocols to be used in
ANIMA? I got confused.
Thanks.
Jéferson

Em qui, 7 de abr de 2016 às 17:22, Michael Behringer (mbehring) <
mbehring@cisco.com> escreveu:

> Laurent,
>
> Since we couldn't finish the discussion online, here my comment on the
> list:
>
> You won't be surprised to hear that I'm asking also here for the smallest,
> simplest possible first step. To get us all on the same page, and
> understand the requirement better.
>
> So I was thinking, we actually have a good use case for this:
> draft-ietf-anima-prefix-management could probably do with a small knowledge
> plane; in its simplest case, an operator wants to know the current status
> of assignments across the entire network; before a node requests more
> address space from another node, it could ask a knowledge plane where the
> biggest free pools are.
>
> Disassembling this a bit: questions to the knowledge plane could be:
> - "which node has the biggest free address pool?"
> - "what's the average / max / min usage of local pools across the network?"
> - "how much address space is still available?" (not quite the same as
> above, I think)
> - etc.
>
> Would that make a nice use case to understand the knowledge plane better?
>
> Michael
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