Re: [Anima] How it all fits together

"Michael Behringer (mbehring)" <mbehring@cisco.com> Fri, 14 August 2015 11:30 UTC

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From: "Michael Behringer (mbehring)" <mbehring@cisco.com>
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Inline... 

[...]
> >This is what you had in mind, right?
> 
> That's what I suggested.

Ack - thanks.
 
[...]
> >My proposal: The general parts of section 5 in
> >draft-behringer-anima-autonomic-control-plane should probably move
> into
> >the reference model, and only ACP specifics should remain in
> >draft-behringer-anima-autonomic-control-plane. So, essentially, move
> >section 5 of the ACP draft into the reference model, and refine that.
> 
> 
> Just re-read the section 5, currently, it is looks like a mix of design
> consideration, general for autonomic and procedure of establishing ACP.
> May I suggest to dedicate this section for the procedure of establishing
> ACP? 

Yes, that is what I meant. 

> In another word, I think section 5.6, 5.9 and maybe part of section 5.7
> should be replaced somewhere else. The procedure should be integrity
> here. 

What do you mean with the last sentence? But, it sounds like we're in sync. 

> Then, some pieces of the procedure of establishing ACP may be
> emphasized in an abstracted way in reference model, the section described
> how they fits together.

Right. 

> By the way, it may not be a good idea to submit a 00 version with any major
> changes. It would be better if you could submit draft-ietf-anima-autonomic-
> control-plane-00 as it is in -03, then make modifications in -01 version and
> represent them to the WG.

OK, then I start by re-submitting the current draft (there were some minor edits only so far) with the new name first. No problem. 

Michael