Re: [apps-discuss] using the name "simple web discovery" to replace the name "webfinger"?
Bob Wyman <bob@wyman.us> Mon, 11 June 2012 14:55 UTC
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Subject: Re: [apps-discuss] using the name "simple web discovery" to replace the name "webfinger"?
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I oppose changing the name. We've been talking about WebFinger for many years now and much context and history would be lost if the name changed. The SWD stuff is a relative newcomer not to mention a fairly vague name. I see no value in changing the name -- only downsides. bob wyman On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 3:07 AM, Michiel de Jong <michiel@unhosted.org>wrote: > The webfinger spec > (http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-jones-appsawg-webfinger-05 ) and the > simple web discovery spec > (http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-jones-simple-web-discovery-02 ) are > being merged into one thing. > > We need a name to refer to the result of this merge. This means we > need to pick one of the names to go forward with, and deprecate the > other name, or pick a new name altogether and deprecate both current > names. > > I think currently 'bare user@host vs acct:user@host' and 'xml or json > vs only json' are two points that still need to be resolved before the > merge is complete, right? Anyway, that's not the topic of this thread > - let's just suppose a consensus will be reached, and the specs will > be merged. > > Then, I think Blaine Cook, Paul Jones and Mike Jones have all > indicated in previous threads that they are open to picking 'simple > web discovery' as the new name. > > FWIW, i personally am the kind of person who enjoys giving nice names > to things, and i particularly enjoy saying 'webfinger' because it's > more creative, less boring, and funnier as a name. Also, to me it > makes perfect sense that it's "finger for the web". However, in my > experience explaining to people that remoteStorage > (http://www.w3.org/community/unhosted/wiki/RemoteStorage ) combines > XHR with CORS, OAuth and webfinger, people usually know what XHR is > (especially if i call it AJAX), 50% know what OAuth is, and for CORS > the face i get from them is 'oh that must be some sort of special > mechanism'. > > The face i sometimes (not always) get for webfinger is 'huh? is that a > real thing?'. :) also, when i do explain webfinger to people, unless > they look like old school finger users, i tell them it is 'a simple > mechanism for discovering service on the web'. So it is my opinion > that 'simple web discovery' would be a (more boring, but) better name > than 'webfinger'. A downside would be that we need to update it > everywhere, but i guess we can get over that. > > maybe other people have other experiences or insights about this name > choice? > > > Cheers, > Michiel > _______________________________________________ > apps-discuss mailing list > apps-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/apps-discuss >
- [apps-discuss] using the name "simple web discove… Michiel de Jong
- Re: [apps-discuss] using the name "simple web dis… Melvin Carvalho
- Re: [apps-discuss] using the name "simple web dis… William Mills
- Re: [apps-discuss] using the name "simple web dis… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [apps-discuss] using the name "simple web dis… Bob Wyman
- Re: [apps-discuss] using the name "simple web dis… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [apps-discuss] using the name "simple web dis… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [apps-discuss] using the name "simple web dis… Phil Hunt
- Re: [apps-discuss] using the name "simple web dis… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [apps-discuss] using the name "simple web dis… elf Pavlik
- Re: [apps-discuss] using the name "simple web dis… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [apps-discuss] using the name "simple web dis… Tim Bray
- Re: [apps-discuss] using the name "simple web dis… John C Klensin
- Re: [apps-discuss] using the name "simple web dis… William Mills
- Re: [apps-discuss] using the name "simple web dis… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [apps-discuss] using the name "simple web dis… Blaine Cook
- Re: [apps-discuss] using the name "simple web dis… John Bradley
- Re: [apps-discuss] using the name "simple web dis… John C Klensin