Re: [apps-discuss] A greylisting question
Dave CROCKER <dhc@dcrocker.net> Fri, 17 February 2012 13:50 UTC
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Subject: Re: [apps-discuss] A greylisting question
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On 2/16/2012 11:35 PM, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: > I suspect the IESG will ask this if we don’t cover it, so let’s put something in > about this now… > > The current draft only talks about IPv4, because that’s what we have experience > with so far in terms of greylisting. How does our advice translate to IPv6? Is > it the same? There will, at least, be some differences and possibly many. But since we have no experience with this stuff in that space, we can't be sure. There is no practice that we can declare 'best'. At most, we can add a comment acknowledging the topic and commenting on some basic issues. Something along the lines of: At the time of this writing, there is no widespread experience with greylisting as applied to sources using IPv6 addresses. The greater size of an IPv6 address seems likely to permit differences in behaviors by bad actors, and this could well mean needing to alter the details for applying greylisting; it might even negate any benefits in using greylisting at all. At a minimum, it is likely to call for different specific choices for any greylisting algorithm variables. d/ -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking bbiw.net
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