[apps-discuss] Client-defined port -> particular port (was: [dane] AppsDir review of draft-ietf-dane-protocol-19)
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Subject: [apps-discuss] Client-defined port -> particular port (was: [dane] AppsDir review of draft-ietf-dane-protocol-19)
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On 1. 5. 2012, at 21:26, Warren Kumari wrote: > > [ -IESG] > On May 1, 2012, at 3:18 PM, Paul Hoffman wrote: > >> On May 1, 2012, at 11:56 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: >> >>> On 5/1/12 11:02 AM, Tony Finch wrote: >>>> Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> The change from "client-chosen port" to "client-define port" is >>>>> mystifying to me. Even assuming that "client-defined" was meant, it's >>>>> not clear to me what a client-defined port is, and I see no effective >>>>> difference between the old text and the new text. >>>> >>>> I think the mistake is to talk about the client here. The client begins a >>>> connection to the service's port at that IP address. >>> >>> Usually, yes. Sometimes the client is configured to override the default >>> port for the given service, as Paul noted. >>> >>> Could we just say "It then begins a connection to a particular port at >>> that address"? Perhaps the method for determining the port isn't really >>> relevant in this spec. >> >> Works for me. What do others think? >> >> Current: >> It then begins a connection to a client-defined port at that address, and sends an initial message there. >> Proposed: >> It then begins a connection to a particular port at that address, and sends an initial message there. > > LGTM. +1 -- Ondřej Surý -- Chief Science Officer ------------------------------------------- CZ.NIC, z.s.p.o. -- Laboratoře CZ.NIC Americka 23, 120 00 Praha 2, Czech Republic mailto:ondrej.sury@nic.cz http://nic.cz/ tel:+420.222745110 fax:+420.222745112 -------------------------------------------
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- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… Mark Andrews
- [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of draft-ietf-dane-… Peter Saint-Andre
- [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of draft-ietf-dane-… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of draft-ietf-d… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [apps-discuss] AppsDir review of draft-ietf-d… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… Paul Wouters
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… Warren Kumari
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… James Cloos
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… John Gilmore
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… Mark Andrews
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… Patrik Fältström
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… S Moonesamy
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… John Gilmore
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… Ned Freed
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… SM
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… James Cloos
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… Tony Finch
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… Martin Rex
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… Tony Finch
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… Matt Miller
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… Martin Rex
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… Tony Finch
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… Warren Kumari
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… Martin Rex
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… James Cloos
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… Tony Finch
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… Ned Freed
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… James Cloos
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… James Cloos
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… James Cloos
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… Martin Rex
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… Matt Miller
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… Paul Hoffman
- [apps-discuss] Documenting DANE for XMPP (WAS: [d… Matt Miller
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… Dave Cridland
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… Tony Finch
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… Ned Freed
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… Ned Freed
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… Ned Freed
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… James Cloos
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… Tony Finch
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… Ned Freed
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… Ned Freed
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… Jakob Schlyter
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… Mark Andrews
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] Documenting DANE for XM… Richard L. Barnes
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] Martin Rex
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… Tony Finch
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… Tony Finch
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… Ned Freed
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… Ned Freed
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… Tony Finch
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… Tony Finch
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of Mark Andrews
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of Tony Finch
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… Mark Andrews
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… Warren Kumari
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] Ned Freed
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] Martin Rex
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of Martin Rex
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] Ned Freed
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] Martin Rex
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of Mark Andrews
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] Ned Freed
- [apps-discuss] MX and DANE (Was: [dane] AppsDir r… Ondřej Surý
- [apps-discuss] Client-defined port -> particular … Ondřej Surý
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… Ondřej Surý
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] MX and DANE (Was: AppsD… Tony Finch
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] MX and DANE (Was: AppsD… Richard L. Barnes
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] MX and DANE (Was: AppsD… Ondřej Surý
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… Ondřej Surý
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of Ondřej Surý
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… SM
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… SM
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] MX and DANE (Was: AppsD… Mark Andrews
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… Ned Freed
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] MX and DANE (Was: AppsD… Martin Rex
- Re: [apps-discuss] [dane] AppsDir review of draft… Ondřej Surý