Re: [apps-discuss] Kathleen Moriarty's Discuss on draft-ietf-appsawg-json-merge-patch-06: (with DISCUSS)
James M Snell <jasnell@gmail.com> Thu, 21 August 2014 02:00 UTC
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Subject: Re: [apps-discuss] Kathleen Moriarty's Discuss on draft-ietf-appsawg-json-merge-patch-06: (with DISCUSS)
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On Aug 20, 2014 6:50 PM, "Paul Hoffman" <paul.hoffman@vpnc.org> wrote: > [Snip] > > I'm not sure I can add those sentences in a useful fashion. With current delivery mechanisms (HTTP being the most common), MIME objects don't come with hashes for checking. So giving that advice would cause developers to look for something that they won't have, namely hashes of the MIME object they just got. > +1 > I do hope you're not asking us to change the format to include an internal hash. That would require inventing JSON canonicalization (which the JOSE WG has flailed miserably on) and say "canonicalize, pick a hash function, hash, and add that to the patch object". The recipient would need to pull the hash out before processing the patch, canonicalize the result, and check the hash. This is conceptually possible but it seems onerous, and has not been done in any of the earlier patch formats that have been standardized in the IETF. > +1... Adding an internal hash would not work with this mechanism without taking a major step backwards. I do not see the value. - James > --Paul Hoffman > _______________________________________________ > apps-discuss mailing list > apps-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/apps-discuss
- Re: [apps-discuss] Kathleen Moriarty's Discuss on… James M Snell
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- Re: [apps-discuss] Kathleen Moriarty's Discuss on… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [apps-discuss] Kathleen Moriarty's Discuss on… Nico Williams
- Re: [apps-discuss] Kathleen Moriarty's Discuss on… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [apps-discuss] Kathleen Moriarty's Discuss on… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [apps-discuss] Kathleen Moriarty's Discuss on… John C Klensin
- Re: [apps-discuss] Kathleen Moriarty's Discuss on… Kathleen Moriarty
- Re: [apps-discuss] Kathleen Moriarty's Discuss on… Kathleen Moriarty
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