Re: [aqm] floating a draft charter
Mirja Kuehlewind <mirja.kuehlewind@ikr.uni-stuttgart.de> Thu, 30 May 2013 12:21 UTC
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Subject: Re: [aqm] floating a draft charter
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Hi Wes, thanks for writting up the chapter. The text reads really well. I'm in favor of using AQM and ECN, but when I was asking on the mailing list, why ECN is not used, the main answer was it's too complex (that relates to AQM) and doesn't give large benefits (as operators focus on low loss rates and high utilization only). I believe the key to get AQM (and ECN) deployed is a very simple AQM scheme. And with simple I don't only mean simple to parametrize (like Codel) but also a simple and easy to understand algorithm. E.g. a step function like proposed with DCTCP (but higher threshold slightly below the may buffersize) to incentive deployment of ECN. Loss-based connections would experienced the same DropTail behavior than today, while ECN-enabled connections could benefit. If more connection support ECN in future the threshold could be lower. That's just a very brief idea (on deployment). But my point is, we should not only to standardize more and more AQM mechanisms because that's a large research area which maybe even should be homed in the IRTF, but we need to find actually deployment strategies. Having a working group on AQM will already help to make people aware of the topic and maybe think about using AQM. But only standardizing more and more AQM queue, might end up in investing a lot of working that no-one will ever use. Mirja On Monday 13 May 2013 16:39:29 Wesley Eddy wrote: > Hello AQMers. To get us a step closer to having a working > group, we'll need a charter. > > I drafted the attached one, and think it's an okay starting > point. If we can either hack on this or if someone has a > better one, I think it will be good to get done before the > Berlin meeting, since we'd like to have a WG-forming BoF. > > FYI, I think we would logically adopt Fred's draft for the > first milestone. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Dipl.-Ing. Mirja Kühlewind Institute of Communication Networks and Computer Engineering (IKR) University of Stuttgart, Germany Pfaffenwaldring 47, D-70569 Stuttgart tel: +49(0)711/685-67973 email: mirja.kuehlewind@ikr.uni-stuttgart.de web: www.ikr.uni-stuttgart.de -------------------------------------------------------------------
- [aqm] floating a draft charter Wesley Eddy
- Re: [aqm] floating a draft charter Mirja Kuehlewind
- Re: [aqm] floating a draft charter Scheffenegger, Richard
- Re: [aqm] floating a draft charter Wesley Eddy
- Re: [aqm] floating a draft charter Yuchung Cheng
- Re: [aqm] floating a draft charter Mirja Kühlewind
- Re: [aqm] floating a draft charter Jim Gettys
- Re: [aqm] floating a draft charter Rong Pan (ropan)
- Re: [aqm] floating a draft charter Dave Taht
- Re: [aqm] floating a draft charter Andrew Mcgregor
- Re: [aqm] floating a draft charter Luca MUSCARIELLO
- Re: [aqm] floating a draft charter Jim Gettys
- Re: [aqm] floating a draft charter MUSCARIELLO Luca OLNC/OLN