[aqm] Questioning the goal of a hard delay target
Bob Briscoe <ietf@bobbriscoe.net> Fri, 03 July 2015 12:20 UTC
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Subject: [aqm] Questioning the goal of a hard delay target
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AQM chairs and list, 1) Delay-loss tradeoff We (Koen de Schepper and I) have designed an AQM aimed at removing the need for low delay QoS classes, initially as a cost/complexity reduction exercise for broadband remote access servers (BRASs). One of the requirements given to us was: * As background load increases, delay-sensitive apps previously given priority QoS treatment (e.g. voice, conversational video) should continue to get the same QoS as they got with Diffserv. We found that AQMs with a hard delay threshold (PIE, CoDel) have to drive up loss really high in order to maintain the hard cap on delay. The levels of loss start to cause QoS problems for voice, even tho delay is fine. Indeed, we found that the high levels of loss become the dominant cause of delay for Web traffic, due to tail losses and timeouts. Everyone has been focusing on delay, but we've not been noticing consequent really bad loss levels at high load. Once you know where to look, the problem is easy to grasp: As load increases, the bottleneck link has to get each TCP flow to go slower to use a smaller share of the link. The network can increase either drop or RTT. If it holds queuing delay (and therefore RTT) constant (as PIE and CoDel do), it has to increase drop more. We found that by softening the delay threshold a little, at high load we don't need crazy loss levels to keep delay within bounds. BTW, the implementation needs fewer operations per packet than RED, PIE or CoDel. Conversely, at low load, a hard queuing delay threshold also means that delay will be /higher/ than it needs to be. I've written up a brief (4pp) tech report quantifying the problem analytically. <http://www.bobbriscoe.net/projects/latency/credi_tr.pdf> Koen and colleagues have since done thousands of experiments on their broadband testbed with real equipment. It's looking good, even before we've explored varying what we call the 'curviness' parameter (which varies how hard the target it). We have a paper under submission with all the results, which we'll post as soon as it's not sub judice. 2) Does Flow Aggregation Increase or Decrease the Queue? Something else had been bugging me about how queue lengths vary with load: The above argument explains how more TCP flows /increase/ the queue. But queues are meant to get /smaller/ at higher levels of aggregation. The second half of the above tech report explains why there's no paradox. And it goes on to explain when you have to configure an AQM with different parameters for higher link capacity, and when you don't. It gives the formula for how to set the config too. Writing this all down cleared up a lot of nagging doubts I had in my mind. I hope it helps others too. Bob PS. Note my new interim email @. > > > -- > ________________________________________________________________ > Bob Briscoe http://bobbriscoe.net/
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