Re: [arch-d] Call for Comment: <draft-iab-use-it-or-lose-it-02> (Long-term Viability of Protocol Extension Mechanisms)

[Guntur Wiseno Putra <[e-mail]>]

Dear architecture-discuss,


Pardon me, the source for the quotation --which I have just missed-- is
same with one I mentioned in the previous message of this thread: the work
of Michel Foucault's especially on the chapter "A Swimmer Between Two
Words" p. 174.


Regard,
Guntur Wiseno Putra

Pada Sabtu, 09 Oktober 2021, Guntur Wiseno Putra <[e-mail]>
menulis:

> Dear Architecture-discuss,
>
> For the deadline September 22th 2021, this comment of mine is late. But,
> it may have its moment of importances for ones having such cares:
>
> Of the architectural elements of the Internet invariants, what "extention"
> and "emplacement"-- I mentioned in the previous message in this thread--
> are when they work together may be expresed by this analytical
> understanding (which may supposedly be translated into the language of
> computer networks):
>
> " ... the whole network connecting the works of Breton, Georges Bataille,
> Leiris, and Blachot, and extending through the domain of ethnology, art
> history, the history of religions, linguistics and psychoanalysis are
> effacing the rubrics in which our culture classified itself and revealing
> unforseen kinships, proximities and relations."
>
>
> The RFC 1121 "Act One-the Poems" supposedly deserves to reopen...?
>
>
>
> Regard,
> Guntur Wiseno Putra
>
> Pada Jumat, 17 September 2021, Guntur Wiseno Putra <[e-mail]>
> menulis:
>
>> Dear Architecture-discuss,
>>
>>
>> The abstract said:
>>
>> "The ability to change protocols depends on exercising the extension and
>> version negotiation mechanisms that support change. This document explores
>> how regular use of new protocol features can ensure that it remains
>> possible to deploy changes to a protocol. Examples are given where lack of
>> use caused changes to be more difficult or costly. "
>>
>>
>>
>> 1)The extension mechanism would be a way perhaps for next applications of
>> electronic genetics (electronic anti body, for example) --considering the
>> current event Covid 19 Pandemic.
>>
>>
>> "Finally, the promise of genetic engineering is precisely its ability to
>> reprogram
>> different codes and their protocols of communication in different areas
>> of
>> different bodies (or systems) of different species".
>>
>>
>> (Manuel Castell's "Informationalism, Technology and Network Society"
>> section"Informationalism: the Technologocal Paradigm of Network Society"
>>
>> (Manuel Castell, "Informationalism, Technology and Network Society"
>>
>> https://annenberg.usc.edu/sites/default/files/2015/04/28/Inf
>> ormationalism%2C%20Networks%20and%20the%20Network%20Society.pdf
>> )
>>
>>
>> 2) Yet, perhaps, if in our day emplacement supplants extension, so the
>> extension mechanism of the Internet mentioned above has its limits:
>>
>> "In our day, emplacement is supplanting extension which itself replaced
>> localization. Emplacement is defined by the relations of proximity between
>> points or elements. In formal terms these can be described as series,
>> trees, lattices. ...
>>
>> (There is) the importance of problems of emplacement in contemporary
>> engineering: the storage of information or of the partial results of a
>> calculation on the memory of a machine, the calculation of discrete
>> elements, with a random output (such as, quite simply, automobile or in
>> fact the tones on a relephone line), the identification of tagged or coded
>> elements in an ensemble that is either distributed haphazardly or sorted in
>> a univocal classification, or sorted according in a plurivocal
>> classificatoon, and so on. The problem of place or emplacement is posed in
>> terms of demography (also)...
>>
>> Furthermore there was an analysis of "the space outside" which went to an
>> interest to certain emplacements "that have the curious property of being
>> connnected to all (the???) other emplacenents, but in such a way that they
>> suspend, neutralize, or reverse the set of relations that are designated,
>> reflected, or represented ("réflechis") by them... (as they) are of two
>> great types": utopias and heterotopias".
>>
>> NOTE: I red a machine-based copy of Foucault, Michel, "Aesthetics, Method
>> and Epistemology: Essential Works of Foucault 1954-1984 Volume Two(edited
>> by James Faubion), Penguin Books, 2000 Ch. "Different Spaces" pp. 175-86.
>> This is the text of a lecture presented to the Architectural Studies Circle
>> 14 March 1967; it was first published until 1984 ("Architecture, Mouvement,
>> Continuité 5 (October 1984)).
>>
>>
>>
>> Regard,
>> Guntur Wiseno Putra
>>
>> Pada Senin, 13 September 2021, Russ Housley <[e-mail]>
>> menulis:
>>
>>> I read the document, and I encourage the IAB to publish it.
>>>
>>> Russ
>>>
>>> > On Aug 25, 2021, at 2:43 PM, IAB Executive Administrative Manager <
>>> [e-mail]> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > This is an announcement of an IETF-wide Call for Comment on
>>> > draft-iab-use-it-or-lose-it-02.
>>> >
>>> > The document is being considered for publication as an Informational
>>> RFC
>>> > within the IAB stream, and is available for inspection at:
>>> > <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-iab-use-it-or-lose-it/>
>>> >
>>> > The Call for Comment will last until 2021-09-22. Please send comments
>>> to
>>> > [e-mail] and [e-mail].
>>> >
>>> > Abstract:
>>> >
>>> >   The ability to change protocols depends on exercising the extension
>>> >   and version negotiation mechanisms that support change.  This
>>> >   document explores how regular use of new protocol features can ensure
>>> >   that it remains possible to deploy changes to a protocol.  Examples
>>> >   are given where lack of use caused changes to be more difficult or
>>> >   costly.
>>>
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