Re: [art] Artart Last Call review of draft-ietf-tsvwg-ecn-encap-guidelines-20

Bob Briscoe <in@bobbriscoe.net> Tue, 07 November 2023 12:42 UTC

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Subject: Re: [art] Artart Last Call review of draft-ietf-tsvwg-ecn-encap-guidelines-20
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Paul,

Thank you for checking this. See [BB]

On 25/10/2023 19:54, Paul Kyzivat wrote:
> Document: draft-ietf-tsvwg-ecn-encap-guidelines-20
> Reviewer: Paul Kyzivat
> Review Date: 2023-10-25
> IETF LC End Date: 2023-11-02
> IESG Telechat date: ?
>
> Summary: This draft is basically ready for publication, but has nits 
> that should be fixed before publication.
>
> This is a clear and well written document. I have no substantive issues.
>
> I ran the IdNits tool and it reported a number of things that should 
> be checked and possibly corrected. I won't repeat most of them them here.
>
> Among them were a number of lines with non-ascii characters. I 
> investigated these and all seem to be unintentional - apparently a 
> non-printing character.

I can never understand whether I am meant to take note of these 
non-ASCII warnings.

Like a number of the drafts I've been taking through to RFC recently, 
this is a v old draft, that was written in xml2rfc v2. My wysiwig XML 
editor stlil only supports v2. So at the end of WGLC, I converted the 
doc to xml2rfc v3 (using the author tools) which replaces all the v2 XML 
entities like &nbsp; with the non-ascii equivalent. So then, I manually 
tweaked the v3 XML necessary to define the various XML entities for the 
non-ascii characters again, and replaced all their occurrences. Then, 
when the author tool produces the txt, it outputs all the instances of 
XML entities again to non-ASCII characters in the txt.

What is wrong with that? And I thought I was following the guidelines (I 
also asked Jay and followed his advice as to which online advice to 
follow)? So am I meant to follow the guidelines, or am I meant to take 
note of the warnings in the nits? I'm perplexed.


Bob

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