[art] Re: use of Emojis in Internet Standards
Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com> Tue, 10 March 2026 13:57 UTC
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From: Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2026 13:57:09 +0000
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Subject: [art] Re: use of Emojis in Internet Standards
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Hi Robert, Assuming you are planning to publish internet-drafts, you may wish to review the information at https://authors.ietf.org, specifically https://authors.ietf.org/en/diagrams. The permitted types are ASCII art and svg, which I believe will make your intended inclusion of these difficult. regards, Ted Hardie On Tue, Mar 10, 2026 at 1:41 PM Robert Viragh <rviragh@gmail.com> wrote: > Dear ART Working Group and mailing list: > > Thank you for your work on Internet standards which helps with > interoperability and makes the Internet possible, and better for everyone. > > We are developing an Internet standard (a draft specification is attached) > which is currently undergoing cryptographic peer review as to its > characteristics. Our implementers are saying that the specification of > Emojis presents extreme difficulties. > > We would like to know whether you think it can be appropriate to include > Emojis in an Internet Standard, and whether it has widespread compatibility > with Windows, Mac, and Linux, and Android, iOS, and Windows Phone devices. > > We thought that our table of emojis would be simple and straightforward to > implement: > > [image: image.png] > (our proposed table of emojis). We chose the emojis to be widely > compatible and easily recognizable. > > Our implementers are having trouble matching them. > > Here are our questions: > 1. Are there a set of emojis that are considered widely compatible? > 2. Do you think it is appropriate to include it as normative in an > Internet standard? > 3. How should emojis be specified in an Internet standard? > > In terms of ergonomics, we have found that this ergonomic presentation > makes it up to 75% faster to discern differences. You can try this for > yourself in this ergonomic comparison tool: > > https://claude.ai/public/artifacts/05e8b21b-fb31-4c07-83e2-5c8138c25670 (for > fast discernment, you can also focus on the first four words and checksum > at the end, before moving on to comparing the whole hash). > > Therefore we would like to continue to keep emojis in our Internet > Standard as we go through the standards process. > > We welcome all thoughts you may have regarding emojis in Internet > standards. > > Best regards, > Robert Viragh > State of Utopia > > > > > _______________________________________________ > art mailing list -- art@ietf.org > To unsubscribe send an email to art-leave@ietf.org >
- [art] use of Emojis in Internet Standards Robert Viragh
- [art] Re: use of Emojis in Internet Standards Ted Hardie
- [art] Re: use of Emojis in Internet Standards Salz, Rich
- [art] Re: use of Emojis in Internet Standards Orie
- [art] Re: use of Emojis in Internet Standards Rob Sayre
- [art] Re: use of Emojis in Internet Standards Tim Bray
- [art] Re: use of Emojis in Internet Standards S Moonesamy
- [art] Re: use of Emojis in Internet Standards Andrew Sullivan
- [art] Re: use of Emojis in Internet Standards Carsten Bormann
- [art] Re: use of Emojis in Internet Standards Patrik Fältström
- [art] Re: use of Emojis in Internet Standards Rob Sayre
- [art] Re: use of Emojis in Internet Standards Rob Sayre
- [art] Re: use of Emojis in Internet Standards Andrew Sullivan
- [art] Re: use of Emojis in Internet Standards Nico Williams
- [art] Re: use of Emojis in Internet Standards Nico Williams
- [art] Re: use of Emojis in Internet Standards Andrew Sullivan
- [art] Re: use of Emojis in Internet Standards Rob Sayre
- [art] Re: use of Emojis in Internet Standards Martin J. Dürst
- [art] Re: use of Emojis in Internet Standards Rob Sayre
- [art] Re: use of Emojis in Internet Standards Rob Sayre
- [art] Re: use of Emojis in Internet Standards Rob Sayre
- [art] Re: use of Emojis in Internet Standards John C Klensin
- [art] Re: use of Emojis in Internet Standards Martin J. Dürst
- [art] Re: use of Emojis in Internet Standards Rob Sayre
- [art] Re: use of Emojis in Internet Standards Rob Sayre
- [art] Re: use of Emojis in Internet Standards Andrew Sullivan
- [art] Re: use of Emojis in Internet Standards Martin J. Dürst