Re: [art] URNs and Last Call: <draft-nottingham-rfc7320bis-02.txt> (URI Design and Ownership) to Best Current Practice
S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com> Thu, 09 January 2020 09:56 UTC
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Subject: Re: [art] URNs and Last Call: <draft-nottingham-rfc7320bis-02.txt> (URI Design and Ownership) to Best Current Practice
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Hi John, At 08:33 PM 08-01-2020, John C Klensin wrote: > > For further clarity: I think it would be completely reasonable > > to turn around and propose yet another bis version of BCP 190 > > to fix any further perceived defects as soon as this version > > is published, and then work towards building consensus that > > such changes are required. > >My apologies, but I think the above is sufficiently hypothetical >to be, in practice, spurious. draft-nottingham-rfc7320bis is an >AD-sponsored document, sponsored, if I read the tracker >correctly, by you. Now, suppose that someone were to post an >I-D tomorrow, or at some point pre-publication of >draft-nottingham-rfc7320bis, proposing to replace it with a new >version and address other issues. Would you be willing to >AD-sponsor that draft or would you (as I hope you would) say >"the community has spent enough time on this issue for a while, >so, unless a critical emergency causing serious harm can be >demonstrated, let's let it sit for a year or three" (or impose >criteria for level of obvious community interest that would >amount to the same thing). Even if your answer is "yes, you >would sponsor it", can you guarantee that someone would do so >after March 27 (versus putting it off for an extended period or >forever)? It would be very difficult to justify that there is a critical emergency causing harm when a document is not a technical specification. If I understand what was proposed, I would have to work towards building consensus. I'd say that the "perfect is the enemy of good" would likely not be applied then, and that is based on past experience. >We've seen enough things die in the IETF because the problem >wasn't big and pressing enough and no AD felt like sponsoring >the work (for whatever good, bad, or arbitrary reasons) that Yes. Regards, S. Moonesamy
- Re: [art] URNs and Last Call: <draft-nottingham-r… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- [art] URNs and Last Call: <draft-nottingham-rfc73… John C Klensin
- Re: [art] URNs and Last Call: <draft-nottingham-r… Michael Richardson
- Re: [art] URNs and Last Call: <draft-nottingham-r… Adam Roach
- Re: [art] URNs and Last Call: <draft-nottingham-r… Barry Leiba
- Re: [art] URNs and Last Call: <draft-nottingham-r… John C Klensin
- Re: [art] URNs and Last Call: <draft-nottingham-r… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [art] URNs and Last Call: <draft-nottingham-r… Christian
- Re: [art] URNs and Last Call: <draft-nottingham-r… Larry Masinter
- Re: [art] URNs and Last Call: <draft-nottingham-r… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [art] URNs and Last Call: <draft-nottingham-r… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [art] URNs and Last Call: <draft-nottingham-r… S Moonesamy
- Re: [art] URNs and Last Call: <draft-nottingham-r… John C Klensin
- Re: [art] URNs and Last Call: <draft-nottingham-r… Adam Roach
- Re: [art] URNs and Last Call: <draft-nottingham-r… S Moonesamy
- Re: [art] URNs and Last Call: <draft-nottingham-r… Dale R. Worley
- Re: [art] URNs and Last Call: <draft-nottingham-r… John C Klensin
- Re: [art] URNs and Last Call: <draft-nottingham-r… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [art] URNs and Last Call: <draft-nottingham-r… John C Klensin
- Re: [art] URNs and Last Call: <draft-nottingham-r… S Moonesamy