Re: [art] Registering the 'LoST-Validation' NAPTR Service Tag
Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com> Tue, 21 January 2020 17:30 UTC
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Subject: Re: [art] Registering the 'LoST-Validation' NAPTR Service Tag
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Hi Randy, Brian, Thanks for the message. I took a quick look at the document, and there are two things that might want consideration. The first is this text, which tells you that the bursty validation traffic and the real-time functions may be performed by the same server: A server identified using the 'LoST' service tag might also perform the validation function (and might resolve to the same URL as a server identified using the 'LoST-Validation' service tag), but the 'LoST-Validation' tag makes this explicit. The "tag makes this explicit." doesn't seem to quite cover what you want to say here. Maybe: Because some services are configured to provide both real-time and validation functions, a server identified using the 'LoST' service tag may also perform the validation function. The 'Lost-Validation' service tag should, however, always be used first when seeking the validation service, as the two functions may be separate. Fallback to the 'LoST' may follow if the Lost-Validation service does not resolve. Alternatively, you might cut this text and rely on the text in section 3. Second, the document's IANA considerations says this: IANA is requested to add 'LoST-Validation' to the S-NAPTR Application Service Tag registry created by [RFC3958] This tag serves as a counter-part to the 'LoST' tag added by [RFC4848]. 5.1. U-NAPTR Registration This document registers the following U-NAPTR application service tag: Application Service Tag: LoST Defining Publication: This document. Should this be S-NAPTR and LoST-Validation, respectively, or am I missing something? regards, Ted On Sat, Jan 18, 2020 at 12:05 PM Randall Gellens <rg+ietf@randy.pensive.org> wrote: > Working in NENA, we've identified a need to register a new S-NAPTR > service tag 'LoST-Validation'. > > Background: as some may recall, the key motivator for LoST was emergency > services, primarily the ability to lookup a service URN for a location > (i.e., map "URN:SERVICE:SOS" to a SIP URI for a PSAP for a specific > location), and secondarily the ability to validate a civic location > (i.e., validate that a civic address is unique, dispatchable, and meets > the requirements for the area). LoST provides the ability to do both. > NENA i3 (which defines NG9-1-1) makes extensive use of LoST. One thing > NENA i3 does that was not originally contemplated when LoST was > developed is to allow separation of the core mapping function of LoST > from the validation function. NENA i3 allows (but does not require) > these two services to be provided separately (with the motivation that > mapping is a time-crucial service done during emergency call setup, > while validation is performed as data is provisioned into entities and > is not time-crucial, so a provider might potentially provision and > operate these two services differently). LoST uses U-NAPTR Application > Unique Strings rather than URIs to refer to other LoST servers. There is > currently one U-NAPTR service tag for LoST ("LoST"). In order to be able > to separate service mapping from location validation, a second service > tag is needed. Otherwise an entity can't tell from an Application Unique > String which service is available and can't resolve an Application > Unique String into a URI for a LoST server that assuredly is willing to > perform location validation. We therefore propose to define > "LoST-Validation" as a service tag. This will allow an entity to locate > a LoST server willing to perform civic location validation, leaving > "LoST" as the service tag for core service mapping. (Of course, a LoST > server located using the 'LoST' service tag might offer both mapping and > validation, but the ability to use 'LoST-Validation' in NAPTR records > makes explicit which LoST servers are willing to do validation.) > > The Service Tags registry rules that require an RFC to add a tag, so I > have submitted a small RFC to do this: > https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-gellens-lost-validation-00.txt > > Comments, feedback, etc. are appreciated. > > --Randall > > _______________________________________________ > art mailing list > art@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/art >
- [art] Registering the 'LoST-Validation' NAPTR Ser… Randall Gellens
- Re: [art] Registering the 'LoST-Validation' NAPTR… Ted Hardie
- Re: [art] Registering the 'LoST-Validation' NAPTR… Randall Gellens