Re: [art] [Last-Call] Artart last call review of draft-ietf-6man-rfc6874bis-02

"Martin J. Dürst" <duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp> Mon, 27 March 2023 02:10 UTC

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To: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>, Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [art] [Last-Call] Artart last call review of draft-ietf-6man-rfc6874bis-02
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Hello Brian,

On 2023-03-19 07:02, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
> On 19-Mar-23 10:18, Rob Sayre wrote:

>> This part of your message doesn't make sense to me. Can't you use a 
>> tilde or something?
> 
> The use case, as the draft should probably make clearer, is to cut
> and paste something like fe80::8d0f:7f26:f5c8:780b%enx2c56ac39ec0d from
> (say) ifconfig to maybe
> ping6 fe80::8d0f:7f26:f5c8:780b%enx2c56ac39ec0d
> or http://[fe80::8d0f:7f26:f5c8:780b%enx2c56ac39ec0d]
> 
> Patching that to fe80::8d0f:7f26:f5c8:780b-enx2c56ac39ec0d would be 
> entirely
> possible but would you like to be the help desk person telling
> a user to do so?

First, ping isn't using URIs, so it can do whatever it wants.

But more importantly, these is a need for something (or somebody) to 
change from
    fe80::8d0f:7f26:f5c8:780b%enx2c56ac39ec0d
to
    http://[fe80::8d0f:7f26:f5c8:780b?enx2c56ac39ec0d]
(using '?' just as a placeholder). If it's some software (preferable), 
then the change from '%' to '?' is extremely easy. If it's a help desk 
person, the best thing may be them to tell the user to use the right 
software for the conversion anyway, rather than have them go through 
hoops with questions "do you really have two slashes, not just one" and 
the like.

Regards,    Martin.

P.S.: This won't solve the problem that browsers seem to continue to be 
absolutely unmoved, and we need to know what would make them move.