Re: [Asrg] RMX and aliases
J C Lawrence <claw@kanga.nu> Wed, 07 May 2003 01:05 UTC
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To: Alan DeKok <aland@freeradius.org>
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Subject: Re: [Asrg] RMX and aliases
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Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 18:04:43 -0700
On Tue, 06 May 2003 17:27:21 -0400 Alan DeKok <aland@freeradius.org> wrote: > Now let's look at the problems with the current use of .forward files. > You receive a message from an MTA in example.com, with the envelope & > body "from" being example-2.com. Forward chained received headers solve the same problem instance, as well as providing reverse transparency down the full path of the message (assuming supporting MTAs). > So the solution to .forward files, is to have the forwarding MTA > explicitely declare it's consent to forwarding messages for another > domain. There's a non-starter in the mailing list world. > In contrast, the simple act of forwarding messages tells you nothing > about consent, other than that forwarding is occuring. Unless an embedded consent protocol is involved (cf TMDA). -- J C Lawrence ---------(*) Satan, oscillate my metallic sonatas. claw@kanga.nu He lived as a devil, eh? http://www.kanga.nu/~claw/ Evil is a name of a foeman, as I live. _______________________________________________ Asrg mailing list Asrg@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/asrg
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