Re: [Asrg] Call for contributors to develop `pay per fraudulantmessage` I-D, code
Amir Herzberg <herzbea@cs.biu.ac.il> Wed, 29 December 2004 14:23 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Asrg] Call for contributors to develop `pay per fraudulantmessage` I-D, code
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Paul Lambert wrote: >>idea that someone has to decide what is spam and what is not. > > No ... spam is subjective. Formaly deciding what is or is not spam > is the wrong way to proceed. > > Instead, consider what happens if all mail is 'tagged'. Filtering > becomes > a more reliable mechanism since there would be standard recoginzable > tags. Exactly! Plus: tagged in an enforceable manner (based on trust between individuals and/or organizations, or based on penalties mechanism). That's exactly the goal of SICS. > Filtering could be based on whatever a user or provider chose to use as > a tagging criteria. I think some universal tags would also be useful. > The filtering criteria would of course include some > the measure of the trust in the tag's creator. If such trust exists. If not (and we do want e-mail to remain open), it could include a `bond` or `guaranteed payment certificate`, by some trusted `guaranteed payment certificate authority`, which can be redeemed if the tag is misleading. Again: part of SICS design. ...skip... > Now this just requires: > - determination of existing fileds that might be used for filtering > - definition of new tags > - meta language for tag syntax and semantic definition > - digital signature formats and procedures to provide > authenticity and traceability of tagging > - tag creation and key distribution procedures > (perhaps including the exchange of money) > > The above ideas are based partialy on the PICS effort. Correct. Which is why I coined the name SICS (`Secure Internet Content Selection`). ... > That would significantly help solve spam, and mail spoofing problems. I agree! > > Note, I am not a proponent of fee based solutions, but services will In principle, neither am I. But here users pay only if they - or their machine - sends message with misleading tags. I think this is Ok - at least compared to alternatives... Best, Amir Herzberg http://AmirHerzberg.com _______________________________________________ Asrg mailing list Asrg@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/asrg
- RE: [Asrg] Call for contributors to develop `pay … Paul Lambert
- Re: [Asrg] Call for contributors to develop `pay … Devdas Bhagat
- RE: [Asrg] GNT..Call for contributors to develop … aseem_jakhar
- Re: [Asrg] Call for contributors to develop `pay … Amir Herzberg