Re: [Asrg] New proposal for spam blocking: Greylisting
Elric Pedder <elric@novitraq.com> Sat, 21 June 2003 04:27 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Asrg] New proposal for spam blocking: Greylisting
From: Elric Pedder <elric@novitraq.com>
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John Morris in <a05200f09bb193252834d@[10.0.1.19]> > At 1:24 PM -0500 6/20/03, Evan Harris wrote: [snip] > >The only issue I had with the original statement was the claim that this > >method should cause greater concern for privacy. While there are privacy > >concerns with any statistics, I wouldn't consider this method any more of a > >danger than normal server logs, since nothing is kept that couldn't be found > >there. > > > >Evan > > FWIW, my original point was that the grey list approach is a greater > cause for concern than a simple white list approach (which can reveal > a user's correspondents but not the date and time of the first and > last e-mail and the number of successful e-mails). > > I agree that the grey list approach is not radically more > problematic than mail server logs. But even on that point, having > two places where private info aggregates is worse than having one. > > Moreover, the greylist might in some cases be easier to locate or > access -- in some situations, for example a civil litigant might have > fairly direct access to his or her grey list (and thus be easily > required to produce it), but the related mail server logs might be > held by a third party ISP not under the litigant's control. And, > once produced, the greylist can serve as an incomplete but still > useful index into the mail server logs. If only a hash of the triplet were stored, would this solve the privacy issue? Regard, - Elric -- Elric Pedder Mailtraq Development (www.mailtraq.com) _______________________________________________ Asrg mailing list Asrg@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/asrg
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- Re: [Asrg] New proposal for spam blocking: Greyli… Yakov Shafranovich
- Re: [Asrg] New proposal for spam blocking: Greyli… Vernon Schryver
- Re: [Asrg] New proposal for spam blocking: Greyli… Jon Kyme
- Re: [Asrg] New proposal for spam blocking: Greyli… Yakov Shafranovich
- Re: [Asrg] New proposal for spam blocking: Greyli… Evan Harris
- Re: [Asrg] New proposal for spam blocking: Greyli… Evan Harris
- Re: [Asrg] New proposal for spam blocking: Greyli… John Morris
- Re: [Asrg] New proposal for spam blocking: Greyli… Vernon Schryver
- Re: [Asrg] New proposal for spam blocking: Greyli… Evan Harris
- Re: [Asrg] New proposal for spam blocking: Greyli… Evan Harris
- Re: [Asrg] New proposal for spam blocking: Greyli… Dave Crocker
- Re: [Asrg] New proposal for spam blocking: Greyli… Vernon Schryver
- Re: [Asrg] New proposal for spam blocking: Greyli… Vernon Schryver
- Re: [Asrg] New proposal for spam blocking: Greyli… Yakov Shafranovich
- Re: [Asrg] New proposal for spam blocking: Greyli… Evan Harris
- Re: [Asrg] New proposal for spam blocking: Greyli… Evan Harris
- Re: [Asrg] New proposal for spam blocking: Greyli… Dave Crocker
- Re: [Asrg] New proposal for spam blocking: Greyli… Yakov Shafranovich
- Re: [Asrg] New proposal for spam blocking: Greyli… Evan Harris
- Re: [Asrg] New proposal for spam blocking: Greyli… Evan Harris
- Re: [Asrg] New proposal for spam blocking: Greyli… Vernon Schryver
- Re: [Asrg] New proposal for spam blocking: Greyli… Benjamin Geer
- Re: [Asrg] New proposal for spam blocking: Greyli… Evan Harris
- Re: [Asrg] New proposal for spam blocking: Greyli… John Morris
- Re: [Asrg] New proposal for spam blocking: Greyli… Elric Pedder
- Re: [Asrg] New proposal for spam blocking: Greyli… Vernon Schryver
- Re: [Asrg] New proposal for spam blocking: Greyli… John Morris
- Re: [Asrg] New proposal for spam blocking: Greyli… Kee Hinckley
- RE: [Asrg] New proposal for spam blocking: Greyli… Elric Pedder
- RE: [Asrg] New proposal for spam blocking: Greyli… Vernon Schryver
- RE: [Asrg] New proposal for spam blocking: Greyli… Clayton, Nik [IT]
- RE: [Asrg] New proposal for spam blocking: Greyli… David F. Skoll
- RE: [Asrg] New proposal for spam blocking: Greyli… Evan Harris