Re: [Asrg] Grouped reply on permissions lists

Yakov Shafranovich <research@solidmatrix.com> Fri, 20 June 2003 20:53 UTC

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Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 16:52:04 -0400

At 04:47 PM 6/20/2003 -0400, Kee Hinckley wrote:

>Could we please cancel this thread (and not cc it to wishlist@microsoft.com).
>
>People use formatted email.  Whether they need, or want to is besides the 
>point.  They do.  No amount of talking is going to set back the clock to 
>the days of the ascii internet.  Let's talk about things that can actually 
>be changed, not fantasies where clueless "lusers" don't understand the 
>damage they are doing by sending graphical smiley faces to their Aunt 
>Lucy, but would happily change their behavior and start typing in 
>compressed hacker speak if it were just nicely explained to them.  While 
>we're at it--let's explain to them why they shouldn't litter either--that 
>should be even easier.
>
>And seriously.  Even if you believe that blocking HTML is feasible. It 
>isn't going to make the slightest bit of difference in the amount of spam 
>that gets sent.  Spammers do their best to make their email look like real 
>email to the end user.  If the end user gets email as plain text, then 
>spammers will send plain text.  This isn't rocket science--it's basic 
>economics.
>
>At that point, Gordon falls back on the argument that at least we will 
>have saved in the number of *bytes* sent.  Which is true.  But saving 
>bytes is not the charter of this group.
>--

Thank you Kee, I second that thought. Can we move on to bigger and better 
things? 


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