Re: [Asrg] 1a. Inventory of Problems - new spam channels

"Alan DeKok" <aland@ox.org> Wed, 17 March 2004 19:56 UTC

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From: Alan DeKok <aland@ox.org>
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Subject: Re: [Asrg] 1a. Inventory of Problems - new spam channels
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Andreas Saurwein <saurwein@uniwares.com> wrote:
> I believe it is only a matter of a few month until we see serious spam in 
> online games. Most games have, as far as I can see, no protection against 
> this type of misuse.

  As a larger question, is the IETF designing protocols for the
Internet, or for IP networks?

  Online games may be viewed as private networks layered on top of the
Internet.  So are we interested in solving their spam problems, or
are they out of scope:

  Alan DeKok.

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