[Asrg] Re: SPF abused by spammers
Frank Ellermann <nobody@xyzzy.claranet.de> Fri, 10 September 2004 14:33 UTC
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Subject: [Asrg] Re: SPF abused by spammers
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Markus Stumpf wrote: > Microsoft claims IPR (which they did even before the group > was chartered, btw, but everyone ignored it). Not really, May 20: draft-atkinson-callerid-00 published. May 21: ASRG co-chair resigns. May 22: IPR complaint filed. > We have a second trump card, we play ... SPF. Tataaaa. Sure, there's nothing wrong with spf2.0/mailfrom as long as you don't confuse it with the FUSSP. In theory spf2.0/pra could also make sense if they fix their "patented" algorithm to read four mail headers for some common cases. > We still don't have "the anti spam solution", but hey, > who cares or realizes this. I care. Back to zero bounces / out-of-office / vacation / challenges / broken NDRs / Symantec announcing its ignorance to the e-mail world at large / etc. per day as it was in 2003. Instead of 1000 useless mails caused by forgeries per day. You need a modem account and a catch-all vanity host to feel the difference. > everyone always says "this is the way to go", so nobody > asks where the way will really lead to. Again not really. I still like your MTAMARK idea, and it's also very interesting to watch SURBL. And even C/R systems could work in combination with a spf2.0/mailfrom PASS. Bye, Frank _______________________________________________ Asrg mailing list Asrg@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/asrg
- Re: [Asrg] Re: SPF abused by spammers Peter Bowyer
- [Asrg] Re: SPF abused by spammers Frank Ellermann
- Re: [Asrg] Re: SPF abused by spammers Markus Stumpf
- Re: [Asrg] Re: SPF abused by spammers Seth Breidbart
- Re: [Asrg] Re: SPF abused by spammers Markus Stumpf
- Re: [Asrg] Re: SPF abused by spammers Daniel Feenberg
- RE: [Asrg] Re: SPF abused by spammers Tim Bedding
- Re: [Asrg] Re: SPF abused by spammers Markus Stumpf
- Re: [Asrg] Re: SPF abused by spammers Barry Shein
- Re: [Asrg] Re: SPF abused by spammers Barry Shein
- Re: [Asrg] Re: SPF abused by spammers Seth Breidbart
- Re: [Asrg] Re: SPF abused by spammers Seth Breidbart
- Re: [Asrg] Re: SPF abused by spammers Barry Shein
- Re: [Asrg] Re: SPF abused by spammers Matthias Leisi
- [Asrg] Re: SPF abused by spammers Frank Ellermann
- Re: [Asrg] Re: SPF abused by spammers Markus Stumpf
- Re: [Asrg] Re: SPF abused by spammers Markus Stumpf
- Re: [Asrg] Re: SPF abused by spammers Peter J. Holzer
- Re: [Asrg] Re: SPF abused by spammers Seth Breidbart
- Re: [Asrg] Re: SPF abused by spammers Richard Rognlie
- Re: [Asrg] Re: SPF abused by spammers Seth Breidbart
- Re: [Asrg] Re: SPF abused by spammers Markus Stumpf
- Re: [Asrg] Re: SPF abused by spammers Barry Shein
- Re: [Asrg] Re: SPF abused by spammers Peter J. Holzer
- Re: [Asrg] Re: SPF abused by spammers Peter J. Holzer
- Re: [Asrg] Re: SPF abused by spammers Markus Stumpf
- Re: [Asrg] Re: SPF abused by spammers Seth Breidbart
- RE: [Asrg] Re: SPF abused by spammers Sauer, Damon
- Re: [Asrg] Re: SPF abused by spammers Markus Stumpf
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- Re: [Asrg] Re: SPF abused by spammers Barry Shein
- Re: [Asrg] Re: SPF abused by spammers Devdas Bhagat
- Re: [Asrg] Re: SPF abused by spammers Barry Shein
- Re: [Asrg] Re: SPF abused by spammers Peter J. Holzer
- RE: [Asrg] Re: SPF abused by spammers Barry Shein
- Re: [Asrg] Re: SPF abused by spammers Seth Breidbart
- Re: [Asrg] Re: SPF abused by spammers Seth Breidbart
- Re: [Asrg] Re: SPF abused by spammers Barry Shein
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- [Asrg] Re: SPF abused by spammers Frank Ellermann
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- Re: [Asrg] Re: SPF abused by spammers Markus Stumpf
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