RE: [Asrg] Re: - More 'pay per' foolishness

"Hannigan, Martin" <hannigan@verisign.com> Thu, 30 December 2004 06:08 UTC

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From: "Hannigan, Martin" <hannigan@verisign.com>
To: "'gep2@terabites.com'" <gep2@terabites.com>, asrg@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [Asrg] Re: - More 'pay per' foolishness
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 00:54:02 -0500
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If anyone missed it, I'm not talking about "pay per" I'm talking about
inter-carrier bit billing broken out by protocol (SMTP) that causes
providers to know exactly what their SMTP costs are and they can react
accordingly with rate plans that accomodate hamburgers, double cheesburgers,
and Big Mac's with fries. 


-M<



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Martin Hannigan                         (c) 617-388-2663
VeriSign, Inc.                          (w) 703-948-7018
Network Engineer IV                       Operations & Infrastructure
hannigan@verisign.com



> -----Original Message-----
> From: asrg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:asrg-bounces@ietf.org]On Behalf Of
> gep2@terabites.com
> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 12:38 AM
> To: asrg@ietf.org
> Subject: [Asrg] Re: - More 'pay per' foolishness
> 
> 
> > - If X is a spammer she will eventually run out of money 
> and will have to
> pay her provider again (for sending mails).(Assuming we use 
> some sort of 
> SMTP extension or some other mechanism for authenticating X's account)
> 
> > - If Y replies to X's mail the same transaction happens the 
> other way round.
> 
> > So, if I am a normal user I am not likely to run out of money in my
> account because i'll be sending as well as receiving mails. 
> If there is
> some deduction in my account but i know i didn't send any 
> mails then it's
> most likely that my machine is infected(assuming there is no way to
> prevent zombies from sending authenticated mail ).
> 
> > And I would love to be spammed because that will only 
> increase the amount
> of money in my account.
> 
> And so what happens for 'free' community mailing lists and 
> other such affinity 
> groups, which get one mail from a group member and send it 
> out to the other 
> thousand members of the affinity group?
> 
> Not all E-mail send/receive traffic is anything remotely like 
> symmetrical.
> 
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