2. Analysis - Spam Definition (was Re: [Asrg] Spam definition!)
Yakov Shafranovich <research@solidmatrix.com> Thu, 18 September 2003 17:56 UTC
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From: Yakov Shafranovich <research@solidmatrix.com>
Subject: 2. Analysis - Spam Definition (was Re: [Asrg] Spam definition!)
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Liam Meany wrote: > Hello all, > > Sorry for changing the subject but I was wondering if anyone knows if there > is an offical definition from the ASRG on what spam actually is? I had a > look at the IETF website but could not find one. > Hi Liam, First of all just a reminder to follow the posting guidelines (http://www.irtf.org/asrg/asrg_mailing_list_information.htm). I changed the subject of the message to comply with the guidelines. To answer your question - we all agree that we disagree. We do not have an official definition and are not seeking for one. Rather, we want to leave the definiation of spam to be defined by each end-user and ISP as they want, with the ASRG defining and evaluating different tools to make it happen. This is reflected in the ASRG charter (http://www.irtf.org/charters/asrg.html): "The definition of spam messages is not clear and is not consistent across different individuals or organizations. Therefore, we generalize the problem into "consent-based communication". This means that an individual or organization should be able to express consent or lack of consent for certain communication and have the architecture support those desires." From the consent framework (http://www.solidmatrix.com/research/asrg/asrg-consent-framework.html): "This model does not concern itself with defining what spam is – one person's spam message may be another's freedom of speech. Thus, we only seek to define a consent framework – everything else is left to the implementors and the users themselves." From the technical considerations document (http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-crocker-spam-techconsider-02.txt): <snip> Internet mail has operated as an open and unfettered channel between originator and recipient. It has always suffered from some degree of abuse, in which originators impose on recipients inappropriately. In recent years, a version of this abuse has grown substantially. Called spam, its definition varies from "unsolicited commercial email" to "any email the recipient does not want". Often there are no technical differences between spam and "acceptable" email. Their format, content and even aggregate traffic patterns may be identical. Hence spam is a problem for fundamentally non-technical reasons, yet the Internet technical community must pursue technical responses to it. The lack of strong community consensus on a single, precise definition makes this particularly challenging. For most working discussions, the term "Unsolicited Bulk Email" is sufficient. The salient point that it is a mass-mailing ensures that discussion covers the broadest concern of the user and provider communities. Mail that is not in some real sense "bulk" cannot flood networks or mailboxes. Essentially all mail that people object to, as "spam", is bulk. For example practically all objectionable advertising mail is also bulk, although modern techniques for targeted advertising can permit extensive content or address tailoring. "Bulk" is usually very difficult for an individual recipient to prove, but almost always easy to recognize in practice. More detailed discussion must, of course, be precise in the definition of "unsolicited" and usually must distinguish between different types of mail, such as commercial, religious, political or personal. <snip> _______________________________________________ Asrg mailing list Asrg@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/asrg
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