Re: [Asrg] Accreditation Mechanism Proposal
Yakov Shafranovich <research@solidmatrix.com> Tue, 30 March 2004 22:57 UTC
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>>There has been talk in at least four forums (ASRG, >>SMTP-VERIFY, MXCOMP >>and main IETF list) about trust, establishing trust between >>two parties >>and quering third party providers of information. The SMTP-VERIFY >>subgroup is also talking about exchanging information on >>neutral metrics like MTA volume via some protocol. > > > I will check the SMTP-VERIFY archives. > > I think that the scope of trust exchange in this particular domain > needs to be limited, there are trillions of emails sent each week, > there is no way that every one can be backed by an essay the > length of war and peace describing the trustworthiness. > > On the other hand we do want more than binary data, there has to > be a gradation here. In practice I suspect we do not need a huge > number of levels at this point in time. > Whatever it is, we need a protocol and formats that two entities can exchange information about trust. For example, a sending MTA can pass via an ESMTP extension hints about accreditation and reputation, which the receiver can use to establish some form of trust. Of course the same can be done via DNS or some other protocol. > > I think it is also useful to see a description of the domain. An > ISP or university cannot be held to the same standard as a lawyers > office. The lawyer should have very tight control over their > employees. If there are persistent spam runs then there is a real > problem that is not really explainable. An ISP on the other hand cannot > be expected to stop all spam outright, not without controlling their > customers in an unacceptable way. Ok that would be useful. Thoughts on how to proceed with this? Yakov _______________________________________________ Asrg mailing list Asrg@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/asrg
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