Re: Atom Content Negotiation (follow-up)

Erik Wilde <dret@berkeley.edu> Mon, 02 May 2011 17:35 UTC

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hello hadrien.

On 2011-05-02 9:18, Hadrien Gardeur wrote:
> +1. Media parameters are not sufficiently well defined yet, but I
> believe that this is the right solution to this problem.

philosophically, i agree. the question i am asking myself is how likely 
it is that this is actually going to happen. it might require a rewrite 
of the media type specification, and a rewrite of how content 
negotiation in HTTP interacts with that updated media type model. is 
that something that is likely to happen, in the mid term or at all? i am 
having my doubts, which is why i was suggesting my admittedly suboptimal 
approach, which has the advantage of layering on top of the existing 
architecture without the need for updating some of the core standards. 
short version: do you think the right solution is going to happen? and 
if not, what then?

cheers,

dret.

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