Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9496 <draft-irtf-cfrg-ristretto255-decaf448-08> for your review

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Subject: Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9496 <draft-irtf-cfrg-ristretto255-decaf448-08> for your review
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   combination of a cryptographic hash function and the element
   derivation function is suitable for use in algorithms such as
   hash_to_curve [draft-irtf-cfrg-hash-to-curve-16].
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   identity is a generator, but for interoperability a canonical
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   Curve25519 basepoint, enabling reuse of existing precomputation for
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Original: 
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   field elements.

Suggested:
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   type representing an element of the group SHOULD be opaque to the
   caller, meaning they do not expose the underlying curve point or
   field elements. 
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Original:
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   function always returns a valid internal representation, or an error,
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Perhaps:
   The decoding
   function always returns a valid internal representation, or an error,
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   internal representations.
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RFC9496 (draft-irtf-cfrg-ristretto255-decaf448-08)

Title            : The ristretto255 and decaf448 Groups
Author(s)        : H. Valence, J. Grigg, M. Hamburg, I. Lovecruft, G. Tankersley, F. Valsorda
WG Chair(s)      : 
Area Director(s) :