Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9473 <draft-irtf-panrg-path-properties-08> for your review

[Sarah Tarrant <[e-mail]>]

Hello Cyrill and Med,

Thank you for your replies. We have updated the document accordingly. All of our questions have been addressed.

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> On Sep 7, 2023, at 3:58 AM, Krähenbühl Cyrill <[e-mail]> wrote:
> 
> Dear RFC Editor, all,
> 
> Here are my answers/comments regarding the 11 questions posed in the previous mail:
> 
> 1) I suggest the following additional keywords: PAN, path-aware network, path property, path selection
> 
> 2) this change looks good to me
> 
> 3) this change looks good to me
> 
> 4) I suggest to rephrase this sentence to: "Observed property: A property that is observed for a specific path element, subpath, or path. A property may be observed using measurements, for example the one-way delay of a specific packet transmitted from node to node."
> 
> 5) I suggest to rephrase this sentence to: "This may apply to security-related target properties (e.g., mandate that all enterprise traffic goes through a specific firewall) and path selection (e.g., enforce traffic policies by allowing or disallowing to send flows over paths that involve specific networks or nodes)."
> 
> 6) I suggest to replace RFC2616 with RFC9110.
> 
> 7) I suggest to rephrase this sentence to: "For example, if the packet's content is altered when forwarded over a Generic Routing Encapsulation (GRE) tunnel [RFC2784] [RFC7676], per this document the software instances that terminate the tunnel are considered nodes over which the actions are performed; thus, the transparency definition applies to these nodes."
> 
> 8) this change looks good to me
> 
> 9a) consistently using the lowercase forms works for me.
> 
> 9b) yes, that works for me as well
> 
> 9c) I suggest to use "AS path"
> 
> 9d) I suggest to only mention tcpcrypt with its respective RFC (similar as it is done in RFC8803 in the third paragraph of 1.1): "For example, a 0-RTT Transport Converter [RFC8803] will be involved in a path only when invoked by an endpoint; such invocation will lead to the use of Multipath TCP (MPTCP) [RFC8684] or tcpcrypt [RFC8548] capabilities, while such use is not supported via the default forwarding path."
> 
> 9e) I would suggest to use the all caps version since this is also used in the original draft: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-schinazi-masque-02
> 
> 10) IMO, we followed the guidelines of Section 2.1 of RFC 5743.
> 
> 11) IMO, there are no changes needed for this document to adhere to the inclusive language portion of the style guide.
> 
> Best, Cyrill
> 
> 
> Von: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 7. September 2023 09:01
> An: [e-mail]; [e-mail]; Krähenbühl Cyrill
> Cc: [e-mail]; [e-mail]
> Betreff: RE: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9473 <draft-irtf-panrg-path-properties-08> for your review
>  Dear RFC Editor, all, 
> 
> Please find below two minor comments on the edited version:
> * Replace the occurrences of "IETF network slices" with "IETF Network Slices" to align with the usage in draft-ietf-teas-ietf-network-slices (in IESG review).
> * Section 4: Replace "802.11 WiFi" with "802.11 Wireless Local Area Network (WLAN)" (seehttps://www.ieee802.org/11/). 
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Cheers,
> Med
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> > Title            : A Vocabulary of Path Properties
> > Author(s)        : R. Enghardt, C. Krähenbühl
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