Re: [auth48] [IAB] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9283 <draft-carpenter-rfced-iab-charter-09> for your review

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Thu, 23 June 2022 20:40 UTC

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Subject: Re: [auth48] [IAB] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9283 <draft-carpenter-rfced-iab-charter-09> for your review
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Hi Rebecca,

I believe that this is now ready to publish. Thanks for all your work.

Regards
    Brian Carpenter

On 24-Jun-22 02:17, Rebecca VanRheenen wrote:
> Hi Brian and Mirja,
> 
> Thank you for reviewing that sentence. We have not made any changes as you both prefer the original wording.
> 
> All of our questions have now been addressed. Brian, please contact us with any further updates or with your approval of the document in its current form.
> 
> Thank you,
> RFC Editor/rv
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jun 22, 2022, at 2:06 PM, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Mirja. I think we can leave it as-is then.
>>
>> Regards
>>    Brian Carpenter
>>
>> On 22-Jun-22 21:38, Mirja Kuehlewind wrote:
>>> Yes, I agree with Brian as the IAB or RPC could still decide to establish a liaisons, I prefer the original wording.
>>> Thanks!
>>>> On 21. Jun 2022, at 16:33, Rebecca VanRheenen <rvanrheenen@amsl.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Brian,
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for your reply. The only open question is the following one. No updates were needed for the other questions.
>>>>
>>>>>> 3) <!-- [rfced] Would it be helpful to clarify "This is no longer
>>>>>> necessary"? We ask because this phrasing might be interpreted as meaning
>>>>>> (1) that the RFC Editor will no longer have a liaison member to the IAB or
>>>>>> (2) that the RFC Editor can have a liaison member even though it's not
>>>>>> necessary.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't believe that we intend to *forbid* such a liaison member - so
>>>>> personally I think the current wording is correct. Lars? Mirja?
>>>>>
>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>    Also, RFC 2850 states that the RFC Editor appoints a liaison member to
>>>>>>    the IAB. This is no longer necessary.
>>>>>> Perhaps:
>>>>>>    Also, RFC 2850 states that the RFC Editor appoints a liaison member to
>>>>>>    the IAB. This will no longer occur.
>>>>>> -->
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We’ll wait for a conclusion regarding this text and then ask for your final approval before moving forward.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you,
>>>> RFC Editor/rv
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 18, 2022, at 2:04 PM, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> (Added IAB to CC's.)
>>>>>
>>>>> All looks good to me. Answers below:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 18-Jun-22 15:55, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org wrote:
>>>>>> Brian,
>>>>>> While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve (as necessary)
>>>>>> the following questions, which are also in the XML file.
>>>>>> 1) <!-- [rfced] The submitted XML file includes "General" as the
>>>>>> <area>. However, we do not see an area listed in datatracker. See
>>>>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-carpenter-rfced-iab-charter/.
>>>>>> Please confirm that the <area> should be "General".
>>>>>> -->
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes please.
>>>>>
>>>>>> 2) <!-- [rfced] Please insert any keywords (beyond those that appear in the
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>>>>>> 3) <!-- [rfced] Would it be helpful to clarify "This is no longer
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>>>>>> (1) that the RFC Editor will no longer have a liaison member to the IAB or
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>>>>>> necessary.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't believe that we intend to *forbid* such a liaison member - so
>>>>> personally I think the current wording is correct. Lars? Mirja?
>>>>>
>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>    Also, RFC 2850 states that the RFC Editor appoints a liaison member to
>>>>>>    the IAB. This is no longer necessary.
>>>>>> Perhaps:
>>>>>>    Also, RFC 2850 states that the RFC Editor appoints a liaison member to
>>>>>>    the IAB. This will no longer occur.
>>>>>> -->
>>>>>> 4) <!-- [rfced] Please review the "Inclusive Language" portion of the
>>>>>> online Style Guide <https://www.rfc-editor.org/styleguide/part2/#inclusive_language> and let us know if any changes are needed. Note that
>>>>>> our script did not flag any terms or phrases.-->
>>>>>
>>>>> I see nothing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>   Brian
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>> RFC Editor
>>>>>> On Jun 17, 2022, at 8:32 PM, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org wrote:
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>>>>>> --------------------------------------
>>>>>> RFC9283 (draft-carpenter-rfced-iab-charter-09)
>>>>>> Title            : IAB Charter Update for RFC Editor Model
>>>>>> Author(s)        : B. Carpenter, Ed.
>>>>>> WG Chair(s)      :
>>>>>> Area Director(s) :
>>>>
>>>>
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