Re: [auth48] *[AD] Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9394 <draft-ietf-extra-imap-partial-04> for your review
"Murray S. Kucherawy" <superuser@gmail.com> Tue, 30 May 2023 23:16 UTC
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Subject: Re: [auth48] *[AD] Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9394 <draft-ietf-extra-imap-partial-04> for your review
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Sorry, I didn't realize this was waiting on me. The additional normative reference is approved. -MSK, ART AD On Tue, May 30, 2023, 11:20 Lynne Bartholomew <lbartholomew@amsl.com> wrote: > Hi, Vikram. Thank you for checking in with us. > > Per <https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9394>, we need Murray's > approval for the addition of a Normative Reference. Copied from email > below: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> *Murray, "[RFC4466]" citations have been added to the ABNF > in Section 4, and a Normative Reference for [RFC4466] has been added. As a > formality, please let us know if you approve the additional Normative > Reference. > > > After we receive Murray's approval, we can move this document forward for > publication. > > RFC Editor/lb > > > On May 30, 2023, at 11:06 AM, nvikram_imap@yahoo.com wrote: > > > > Hi Lynne & Murray > > Is the RFC ready to be published? Do you need anything from us? > > > > Thanks > > Vikram > > > > On Friday, May 5, 2023 at 12:45:51 PM PDT, Lynne Bartholomew < > lbartholomew@amsl.com> wrote: > > > > > > Hi, Alexey. Great! Wishing you a good weekend as well! > > > > Thank you! > > > > RFC Editor/lb > > > > > On May 5, 2023, at 9:11 AM, Alexey Melnikov <alexey.melnikov@isode.com> > wrote: > > > > > > Hi Lynne, > > > > > > On 05/05/2023 16:46, Lynne Bartholomew wrote: > > >> Hi, Alexey. > > >> > > >> Thank you very much for the updated XML file! > > >> > > >> We found one remaining alignment issue, which we fixed: The line > under the first "C: " entry in Section 3.1 was two spaces too far to the > left (i.e., under the space just following the colon). > > >> > > >> Please refresh your browser to view the latest files: > > >> > > >> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9394.txt > > >> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9394.pdf > > >> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9394.html > > >> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9394.xml > > >> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9394-diff.html > > >> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9394-rfcdiff.html > > >> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9394-auth48diff.html > > >> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9394-lastdiff.html > > >> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9394-lastrfcdiff.html > > >> > > >> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9394-xmldiff1.html > > >> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9394-xmldiff2.html > > >> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9394-alt-diff.html > > >> > > >> Please let us know if further updates are needed. > > > > > > All looks good. > > > > > > Have a good weekend! > > > > > > Alexey > > > > > >> > > >> Thanks again! > > >> > > >> RFC Editor/lb > > >> > > >>> On May 5, 2023, at 7:01 AM, Alexey Melnikov < > alexey.melnikov@isode.com> wrote: > > >>> > > >>> Hi Lynne, > > >>> > > >>> On 04/05/2023 16:20, Lynne Bartholomew wrote: > > >>>> Hi, Alexey. > > >>>> > > >>>> The spacing updates aren't coming through in our emails. Would you > be willing to make the updates to < > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9394.xml> and email us the updated > XML? We will then make the other file copies, post them, and ask you to > review the spacing and alignment one more time. > > >>> I tried to fix. How is the attached? > > >>> > > >>> Best Regards, > > >>> > > >>> Alexey > > >>> > > >>>> Thank you! > > >>>> > > >>>> RFC Editor/lb > > >>>> > > >>>>> On May 4, 2023, at 2:52 AM, Alexey Melnikov < > alexey.melnikov@isode.com> wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Hi Lynne, > > >>>>> On 04/05/2023 10:48, Alexey Melnikov wrote: > > >>>>>> Hi Lynne, > > >>>>>> On 03/05/2023 21:21, Lynne Bartholomew wrote: > > >>>>>>> Hi, Alexey, Vikram, Arun, and Lafa/Luis. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Alexey, we have updated this document per your note below. > Please review our update carefully (as noted in our item (1) below), and > let us know if there are any lingering issues with spacing and alignment. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> The latest files are posted here. Please refresh your browser: > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9394.txt > > >>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9394.pdf > > >>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9394.html > > >>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9394.xml > > >>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9394-diff.html > > >>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9394-rfcdiff.html > > >>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9394-auth48diff.html > > >>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9394-lastdiff.html > > >>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9394-lastrfcdiff.html > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9394-xmldiff1.html > > >>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9394-xmldiff2.html > > >>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9394-alt-diff.html > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> We have noted your approvals on the AUTH48 status page: > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9394 > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> After we receive > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> (1) confirmation that the current update looks good (for > example, the alignment of the "C: 101 UID FETCH 25900:26600 (UID FLAGS" > line, per the display in your email below, is different than the alignment > of the "S: * 12888 FETCH (FLAGS (\Flagged \Answered" line that follows it; > this looks a bit odd to us) > > >>>>>> In the text version I now see: > > >>>>>> 3.4. Use of "PARTIAL" and "CONDSTORE" IMAP Extensions Together > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> This section is informative. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> The PARTIAL FETCH modifier can be combined with the CHANGEDSINCE > > >>>>>> FETCH modifier [RFC7162]. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> // Returning information for the last 30 messages in the UID range > > >>>>>> // that have any flags/keywords modified since MODSEQ 98305 > > >>>>>> C: 101 UID FETCH 25900:26600 (UID FLAGS > > >>>>>> ) (PARTIAL -1:-30 CHANGEDSINCE 98305) > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> The closing ) should be aligning vertically with "1", not with > "C". There are also 2 spaces after the first ")", it should be just 1. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> S: * 12888 FETCH (FLAGS (\Flagged \Answered > > >>>>>> ) MODSEQ (98306) UID 25997) > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> I think this is fine. Basically I asked you to break the line at > a different point to make sure there are no invisible trailing spaces on > any of the lines. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> S: * 12890 FETCH (FLAGS () MODSEQ (98312) UID 26600) > > >>>>>> S: 101 OK FETCH completed > > >>>>> I now noticed a similar problem in examples in Section 3.1: > > >>>>> // Let's assume that the A01 SEARCH without PARTIAL would return > > >>>>> // 23764 results. > > >>>>> C: A01 UID SEARCH RETURN (PARTIAL -1:-100) UNDELETED > > >>>>> UNKEYWORD $Junk > > >>>>> > > >>>>> The above needs 2 extra leading spaces inserted, so that "U" > aligns with "0". > > >>>>> > > >>>>> S: * ESEARCH (TAG "A01") UID PARTIAL (-1:-100 ...) > > >>>>> // 100 most recent results in set syntax elided. > > >>>>> S: A01 OK Completed. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> // Let's assume that the A02 SEARCH without PARTIAL would return > > >>>>> // 23764 results. > > >>>>> C: A02 UID SEARCH RETURN (PARTIAL 23500:24000) UNDELETED > > >>>>> UNKEYWORD $Junk > > >>>>> > > >>>>> 2 more leading spaces needed. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> C: A03 UID SEARCH RETURN (PARTIAL 1:500) UNDELETED > > >>>>> UNKEYWORD $Junk > > >>>>> > > >>>>> 2 more leading spaces needed. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> C: A04 UID SEARCH RETURN (PARTIAL 24000:24500) UNDELETED > > >>>>> UNKEYWORD $Junk > > >>>>> > > >>>>> 2 more leading spaces needed. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> S: * ESEARCH (TAG "A02") UID PARTIAL (23500:24000 ...) > > >>>>> // 264 results in set syntax elided; > > >>>>> // this spans the end of the results. > > >>>>> S: A02 OK Completed. > > >>>>> S: * ESEARCH (TAG "A03") UID PARTIAL (1:500 ...) > > >>>>> // 500 results in set syntax elided. > > >>>>> S: A03 OK Completed. > > >>>>> S: * ESEARCH (TAG "A04") UID PARTIAL (24000:24500 NIL) > > >>>>> // No results are present; this is beyond the end of the results. > > >>>>> S: A04 OK Completed. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>>>> (2) approval from Murray > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> we can move this document forward for publication. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Thank you! > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> RFC Editor/lb > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> On May 3, 2023, at 12:37 PM, Luis alves <lafaspot@gmail.com> > wrote: > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Hi Lynne > > >>>>>>>> Partial RFC after the final edit looks good to me, I approve > the publication of the partial rfc. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Thanks a lot & Regards > > >>>>>>>> Lafa > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Regards, Luis Alves > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Email: luis.alves@lafaspot.com > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> On May 3, 2023, at 11:16 AM, Arun Prakash Achuthan < > arunprakash@myyahoo.com> wrote: > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Hello Everyone, > > >>>>>>>> The Partial RFC text looks good to me after the last edit. I > approve publication of the partial rfc. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Thanks > > >>>>>>>> Arun > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> On May 3, 2023, at 11:07 AM, nvikram_imap@yahoo.com wrote: > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Hi Lynne > > >>>>>>>> PARTIAL RFC after the final edit from Alexey looks good to me > and is ready for publication from my side. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Thanks a lot & Regards > > >>>>>>>> Vikram > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> On May 3, 2023, at 3:24 AM, Alexey Melnikov < > alexey.melnikov@isode.com> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> Hi Lynne, > > >>>>>>>>> On 25/04/2023 17:37, Lynne Bartholomew wrote: > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> Hi, Alexey. Great; thank you for the quick reply! > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> One final small thing and I am ready to approve the RFC for > publication: > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> 3.4. Use of "PARTIAL" and "CONDSTORE" IMAP Extensions Together > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> This section is informative. > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> The PARTIAL FETCH modifier can be combined with the > CHANGEDSINCE > > >>>>>>>>> FETCH modifier [RFC7162]. > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> // Returning information for the last 30 messages in the UID > range > > >>>>>>>>> // that have any flags/keywords modified since MODSEQ 98305 > > >>>>>>>>> C: 101 UID FETCH 25900:26600 (UID FLAGS) > > >>>>>>>>> (PARTIAL -1:-30 CHANGEDSINCE 98305) > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> The above line is missing a space, i.e. the leftmost "(" > should be aligned with 0 on the line above it. If you think this is too > subtle, it is probably better to move the closing ")" from the line above, > i.e. > > >>>>>>>>> C: 101 UID FETCH 25900:26600 (UID FLAGS > > >>>>>>>>> ) (PARTIAL -1:-30 CHANGEDSINCE 98305) > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> Does this work for you? > > >>>>>>>>> Best Regards, > > >>>>>>>>> Alexey > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> RFC Editor/lb > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 25, 2023, at 9:33 AM, Alexey Melnikov < > alexey.melnikov@isode.com> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Lynne, > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> On 25/04/2023 17:23, Lynne Bartholomew wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, Alexey and *Murray. > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> *Murray, "[RFC4466]" citations have been added to the ABNF > in Section 4, and a Normative Reference for [RFC4466] has been added. As a > formality, please let us know if you approve the additional Normative > Reference. > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Alexey, regarding this item -- please confirm that > "flags/keywords" in Section 3.4 should not be "flags / key words". > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> I confirm that "keywords" is intended in Section 3.4. > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> NEW: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Other capitalized words are IMAP key words [RFC3501] > [RFC9051] or key > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> ^^^^^^^^^ > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> words from this document. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> (So basically I changed the first "keywords" to "key > words"). > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Best Regards, > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Alexey > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> = = = = = > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> The latest files are posted here: > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9394.txt > > >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9394.pdf > > >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9394.html > > >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9394.xml > > >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9394-diff.html > > >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9394-rfcdiff.html > > >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9394-auth48diff.html > > >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9394-lastdiff.html > > >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9394-lastrfcdiff.html > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9394-xmldiff1.html > > >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9394-xmldiff2.html > > >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9394-alt-diff.html > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you! > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> RFC Editor/lb > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 24, 2023, at 4:54 AM, Alexey Melnikov < > alexey.melnikov@isode.com> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Lynne, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 15/04/2023 02:36, Lynne Bartholomew wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, Alexey and *AD (Murray). > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alexey, thank you for the quick reply! We have updated > this document per your notes below. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Murray, "[RFC4466]" citations have been added to the ABNF > in Section 4, and a Normative Reference for [RFC4466] has been added. As a > formality, please let us know if you approve the additional Normative > Reference. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alexey, regarding our question 8) ('We don't see > "CONDSTORE" ...'): Thank you for mentioning CHANGEDSINCE! We updated per > your "Alternatively" note and added RFC 7162 to the new Informative > References section. Please let us know if it should be Normative instead. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> A couple follow-up items for you: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regarding our questions 10) and 11), and the addition of > "[RFC4466]": As RFC 4466 is only cited in the ABNF, we now receive the > following warning: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Warning: Unused reference: There seems to be no reference > to [RFC4466] in the document > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would it be appropriate to add a textual citation for > [RFC4466] as follows? > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Currently: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> This extension is compatible with both IMAP4rev1 [RFC3501] > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and IMAP4rev2 [RFC9051]. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps (if correct): > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> This extension is compatible with IMAP4 [RFC4466], > IMAP4rev1 > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [RFC3501], and IMAP4rev2 [RFC9051]. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> RFC 4466 doesn't define IMAP4. It defines a collection of > ABNF extensions to be used by IMAP extensions. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> So how about the following alternative: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> This extension is compatible with both IMAP4rev1 [RFC3501] > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> and IMAP4rev2 [RFC9051]. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> The above is unchanged. Then add an extra sentence: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> This extension uses IMAP extensibility rules defined in > [RFC4466]. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> = = = = = > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apologies -- we found that this line in Section 3.4 was > also too long for the text output. We added a line break as follows. Please > let us know if the line break should be placed somewhere else: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Previously: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> S: * 12888 FETCH (FLAGS (\Flagged \Answered) MODSEQ > (98306) UID 25997) > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Currently: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> S: * 12888 FETCH (FLAGS > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (\Flagged \Answered) MODSEQ (98306) UID 25997) > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> You can do that, if you have a space at the beginning of > the second line (to make sure that it is visible to the right of the "*" on > the previous line. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Another possible alternative: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> S: * 12888 FETCH (FLAGS (\Flagged \Answered > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> ) MODSEQ (98306) UID 25997) > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> ")" is aligned with "*". > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> In regards to the 2 remaining editorial comments: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) In Section 2, the last paragraph: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> OLD: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Other capitalized words are IMAP keywords [RFC3501] > [RFC9051] or key > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> words from this document. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> NEW: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Other capitalized words are IMAP key words [RFC3501] > [RFC9051] or key > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> ^^^^^^^^^ > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> words from this document. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> (So basically I changed the first "keywords" to "key > words"). > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) Changing <"$" marker would contain all> to <"$" marker > would contain references to all> everywhere would be fine with me. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Best Regards, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Alexey > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> = = = = = > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The latest files are posted here (please refresh your > browser): > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9394.txt > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9394.pdf > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9394.html > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9394.xml > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9394-diff.html > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9394-rfcdiff.html > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9394-auth48diff.html > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9394-alt-diff.html > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9394-xmldiff1.html > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9394-xmldiff2.html > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9394-alt-diff.html > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please review our latest updates carefully, and let us > know if anything is incorrect. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks again! > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> RFC Editor/lb > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 14, 2023, at 10:29 AM, Alexey Melnikov < > alexey.melnikov@isode.com> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13/04/2023 22:47, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Authors, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please > resolve (as necessary) the following questions, which are also in the XML > file. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) <!-- [rfced] Would the following update to the > document title be more descriptive? > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IMAP Paged SEARCH & FETCH Extension > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IMAP PARTIAL Extension for Paged SEARCH and FETCH --> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your suggestion looks good to me. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) <!-- [rfced] Abbreviated (running) document title > (in PDF output): > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would you like to make this title more descriptive, > along the lines > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the running title for< > https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc4731.txt> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ("IMAP4 Extension to SEARCH")? > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IMAP PARTIAL > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IMAP PARTIAL Extension --> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sounds good to me. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3) <!-- [rfced] We found these comments in the original > XML file. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have they been addressed? > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Confusion: IMAP keyword is something else. Use > "Protocol elements" instead?" > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "references to" between the words "contain" and "all" > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (The text output appears as "the "$" marker would > contain all ...") --> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will come back to you on these. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4) <!-- [rfced] Please insert any keywords (beyond > those that appear in the > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> title) for use on<https://www.rfc-editor.org/search>. > --> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5) <!-- [rfced] Abstract: Per our style guidelines, we > added the > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> following text at the end of this section: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This document updates RFCs 4731 and 5267. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please let us know any concerns. --> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This looks fine to me. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6) <!-- [rfced] Section 3.1: We expanded "UID" as > "Unique Identifier" > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> per RFC 9051. If this is incorrect, please provide the > correct > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> definition. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The first > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> result (message with the lowest matching UID) is 1; > thus, the first > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 500 results would be obtained by a return option of > "PARTIAL 1:500", > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and the second 500 by "PARTIAL 501:1000". > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Currently: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The first > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> result (message with the lowest matching Unique > Identifier (UID)) is > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1; thus, the first 500 results would be obtained by a > return option > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of "PARTIAL 1:500" and the second 500 by "PARTIAL > 501:1000". --> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is fine. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7) <!-- [rfced] Please review the artwork elements in > this document, and > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> let us know if anything should be listed as sourcecode. > If > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > https://www.rfc-editor.org/materials/sourcecode-types.txt> does not > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contain an applicable type that you would like to see > in the list, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> please let us know. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please also note that we used sourcecode for the ABNF > in Section 4, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> per< > https://www.rfc-editor.org/materials/sourcecode-types.txt>. --> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ok. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8) <!-- [rfced] Section 3.4: We don't see "CONDSTORE" > used anywhere > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> else in this document. Would you like to add text and a > citation > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for CONDSTORE? We could add RFC 7162 as a Normative > Reference (which > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would require AD approval) or as an Informative > Reference. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Per "This section is informative", it appears that the > latter might > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be acceptable.) > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.4. Use of PARTIAL and CONDSTORE IMAP extensions > together > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This section is informative. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Possibly: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.4. Use of PARTIAL and CONDSTORE IMAP Extensions > Together > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This section is informative. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> See [RFC7162] for details regarding the CONDSTORE > extension. --> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This would be fine. Alternatively you can add > "[RFC7162]" after CHANGEDSINCE in the second sentence of this section. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 9) <!-- [rfced] Section 3.4: This line is too long for > the text output. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We currently receive this warning: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Warning: Too long line found (L287), 6 characters > longer than 72 characters: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> C: 101 UID FETCH 25900:26600 (UID FLAGS) (PARTIAL > -1:-30 CHANGEDSINCE 98305) > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If the suggested line break is not correct, please let > us know where > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the break should be placed. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The PARTIAL FETCH modifier can be combined with the > CHANGEDSINCE > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FETCH modifier. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> // Returning information for the last 30 messages in > the UID range > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> // that have any flag/keyword modified since modseq > 98305 > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> C: 101 UID FETCH 25900:26600 (UID FLAGS) (PARTIAL > -1:-30 CHANGEDSINCE 98305) > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Suggested: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The PARTIAL FETCH modifier can be combined with the > CHANGEDSINCE > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FETCH modifier. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> // Returning information for the last 30 messages in > the UID range > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> // that have any flags/keywords modified since modseq > 98305 > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> C: 101 UID FETCH 25900:26600 (UID FLAGS) > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (PARTIAL -1:-30 CHANGEDSINCE 98305) > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I suggest inserting an extra space before "(PARTIAL" > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... --> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 10) <!-- [rfced] Section 4: The ABNF for fetch-modifier > is defined in RFC 4466. Would you like to add a comment to the ABNF and a > reference to RFC 4466? If so, should the reference be normative or > informative? > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fetch-modifier =/ modifier-partial > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fetch-modifier =/ modifier-partial > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ;; <fetch-modifier> from [RFC4466] > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well spotted. Yes, please add RFC 4466 as a normative > reference. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 11) <!-- [rfced] Section 4: The ABNF includes a comment > with a > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reference to [IMAP-ABNF]. However, [IMAP-ABNF] is not > used > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anywhere else in this document. Does this refer to a > specific > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RFC (maybe RFC 4466), or is a reference listing missing > in the > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Normative References section? > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ;; All conform to <search-return-opt>, from > [IMAP-ABNF]/[RFC9051] > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Possibly: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ;; All conform to <search-return-opt> from > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ;; [RFC4466] and [RFC9051]. --> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, IMAP-ABNF is supposed to be RFC 4466. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12) <!-- [rfced] Acknowledgments: No one is listed as > an editor of this > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> document. May we change "Editor of this document" to > "The authors"? > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, please. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Editor of this document would like to thank the > following people who > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> provided useful comments or participated in discussions > of this > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> document: Timo Sirainen and Barry Leiba. --> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 13) <!-- [rfced] Please review the "Inclusive Language" > portion of the > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> online Style Guide at > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > https://www.rfc-editor.org/styleguide/part2/#inclusive_language>, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and let us know if any changes are needed. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Note that our script did not flag any words in > particular, but this > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should still be reviewed as a best practice. --> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ok. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 14) <!-- [rfced] Please let us know if any changes are > needed for the > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> following: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a) The following terms appear to be used inconsistently > in this > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> document. Please let us know which form is preferred. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> modseq / MODSEQ > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's use the uppercase version. (RFC 7162 also uses > "mod-sequence") > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> partial results (title of Section 3.1) / > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PARTIAL result(s) (9 instances) > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the section title is using it more informally, > so leaving it as is is fine. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> search result(s) (4 instances) / SEARCH result(s) (3 > instances) > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (We see "FETCH results" in Section 3.3.) > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's use "SEARCH result(s)" everywhere. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> searches (5 instances) / SEARCHes (1 instance) > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (We see 1 instance of "fetches" in Section 1.) > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think leaving 1 "SEARCHes" is fine. It is a very minor > semantical difference emphasizing searches as done by the SEARCH command. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> b) Should quoting of capability names be made > consistent? > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "PARTIAL" capability > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CONTEXT=SEARCH capability > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PARTIAL IMAP capability --> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Using quotes everywhere around capability names is > probably the best. (And the same for CONDSTORE). > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alexey > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>> <rfc9394.xml> > > > > > > >
- Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9394 <draft-ietf-e… rfc-editor
- [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9394 <draft-ietf-extra… rfc-editor
- Re: [auth48] AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9394 <draft-ietf-e… Alexey Melnikov
- [auth48] *[AD] Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9394 <draft-… Lynne Bartholomew
- Re: [auth48] *[AD] Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9394 <dr… Lynne Bartholomew
- Re: [auth48] *[AD] Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9394 <dr… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [auth48] *[AD] Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9394 <dr… Lynne Bartholomew
- Re: [auth48] *[AD] Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9394 <dr… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [auth48] *[AD] Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9394 <dr… Lynne Bartholomew
- Re: [auth48] *[AD] Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9394 <dr… Lynne Bartholomew
- Re: [auth48] *[AD] Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9394 <dr… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [auth48] *[AD] Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9394 <dr… Arun Prakash Achuthan
- Re: [auth48] *[AD] Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9394 <dr… nvikram_imap@yahoo.com
- Re: [auth48] *[AD] Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9394 <dr… Lynne Bartholomew
- Re: [auth48] *[AD] Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9394 <dr… Lynne Bartholomew
- Re: [auth48] *[AD] Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9394 <dr… nvikram_imap@yahoo.com
- Re: [auth48] *[AD] Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9394 <dr… Lynne Bartholomew
- Re: [auth48] *[AD] Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9394 <dr… nvikram_imap@yahoo.com
- Re: [auth48] *[AD] Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9394 <dr… Lynne Bartholomew
- Re: [auth48] *[AD] Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9394 <dr… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [auth48] *[AD] Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9394 <dr… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [auth48] *[AD] Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9394 <dr… Lynne Bartholomew
- Re: [auth48] *[AD] Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9394 <dr… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [auth48] *[AD] Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9394 <dr… Lynne Bartholomew
- Re: [auth48] *[AD] Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9394 <dr… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [auth48] *[AD] Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9394 <dr… Lynne Bartholomew
- [auth48] *[AD] Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9394 <draft-… Lynne Bartholomew
- Re: [auth48] *[AD] Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9394 <dr… nvikram_imap@yahoo.com
- Re: [auth48] *[AD] Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9394 <dr… Lynne Bartholomew
- Re: [auth48] *[AD] Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9394 <dr… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [auth48] *[AD] Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9394 <dr… Lynne Bartholomew