Re: [AVTCORE] Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-ietf-avtcore-rtp-circuit-breakers-15: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
Varun Singh <varun@callstats.io> Tue, 10 May 2016 15:55 UTC
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From: Varun Singh <varun@callstats.io>
Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 18:55:08 +0300
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Hi Mirja, On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 6:18 PM, Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF) <ietf@kuehlewind.net> wrote: > Hi Varun, > > I would say that parts of tsvg-circuit-breaker are so general that they also apply for this doc. > > However, in any case my point it that (while congestion control may or may not threat ECN-CE marks similar as loss), circuit breaker MUST NOT do that because only ECN-CE marks without loss clearly shows that everything is working right and there is not need for a circuit breaker to react. That is really important to get right! > I am slightly confused by the above statement: is the guidance above meant for a media sender or media receiver?
- [AVTCORE] Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-ietf… Mirja Kuehlewind
- Re: [AVTCORE] Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-… Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF)
- Re: [AVTCORE] Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-… Colin Perkins
- Re: [AVTCORE] Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-… Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF)
- Re: [AVTCORE] Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-… Varun Singh
- Re: [AVTCORE] Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-… Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF)
- Re: [AVTCORE] Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-… Colin Perkins
- Re: [AVTCORE] Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-… Colin Perkins
- Re: [AVTCORE] Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-… Varun Singh
- Re: [AVTCORE] Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-… Colin Perkins
- Re: [AVTCORE] Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-… Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF)
- Re: [AVTCORE] Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-… Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF)
- Re: [AVTCORE] Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-… Colin Perkins
- Re: [AVTCORE] Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-… Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF)
- Re: [AVTCORE] Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-… Colin Perkins
- Re: [AVTCORE] Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-… Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF)
- Re: [AVTCORE] Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-… Colin Perkins
- Re: [AVTCORE] Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-… Colin Perkins
- Re: [AVTCORE] Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-… Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF)
- Re: [AVTCORE] Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-… Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF)
- Re: [AVTCORE] Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-… Colin Perkins
- Re: [AVTCORE] Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-… Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF)
- Re: [AVTCORE] Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-… Colin Perkins
- Re: [AVTCORE] Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-… Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF)
- Re: [AVTCORE] Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-… Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [AVTCORE] Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-… Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF)
- Re: [AVTCORE] Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-… Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [AVTCORE] Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-… Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF)
- Re: [AVTCORE] Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-… Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [AVTCORE] Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-… Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF)
- Re: [AVTCORE] Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-… Colin Perkins
- Re: [AVTCORE] Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-… Ben Campbell
- Re: [AVTCORE] Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-… Alissa Cooper
- Re: [AVTCORE] Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-… Ben Campbell
- Re: [AVTCORE] Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-… Colin Perkins
- Re: [AVTCORE] Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-… Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF)