Re: [AVT] Open issue on hdrext draft
Magnus Westerlund <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com> Thu, 04 October 2007 11:44 UTC
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Imed.Bouazizi@nokia.com skrev: > Hi, > > An RTP gateway (translator/mixer) that for some reason does not > receive/parse the SDP and is then not aware of the mapping between the > RTP header extension and the ID will not be able to process the RTP > packet appropriately. This speaks for IETF agreed registration (option > c). I think this is an irrelevant comment as any mixer or translator that needs to understand the packet content anyway will require to be part of the signalling context. Thus, I don't think there is a any benefit at all with static mappings. > On the other hand, since the space for 1-byte header IDs is very limited > (14 values only), registration might exhaust the space rather quickly. > One possible solution is to introduce registration for 2-byte headers > and leave 1-byte headers for application-specific usage. However, this > has the limitation that you cannot mix registered and > application-specific extensions into a single RTP packet. It also > imposes length limitations on application-specific extensions. Exactly. There is also an implementation issue with increased complexity to allow multiple mechanisms. > > BTW, am I right in the assumption that this I-D still discourages the > usage of RTP header extensions, as is the case in RFC3550? One might ask > why do we need to register some headers that are just for experimental > purposes? Well, read the draft, or even David's mail properly. For experimentation or proprietary extensions you only need a unique URI, any unique URI representing your extension will do. What we are discussing is what rules applies for the IETF URN space, i.e. the header extensions that will look like they are blessed by IETF. The current draft version was in fact a) as this specified "Specification Required" from RFC 2434: " Specification Required - Values and their meaning must be documented in an RFC or other permanent and readily available reference, in sufficient detail so that interoperability between independent implementations is possible." I think A is fine but would probably prefer this to be b) with explicit rule requiring a publicly available specification. Having an expert look at any registrations to ensure that they are not totally wacko is in my book a good thing. But at the same time put minimal bar on the registrations. Other SDOs should basically be able to send in an email with a request containing a reference and things usually go through. Cheers Magnus Westerlund IETF Transport Area Director & TSVWG Chair ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Multimedia Technologies, Ericsson Research EAB/TVM/M ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Ericsson AB | Phone +46 8 4048287 Torshamsgatan 23 | Fax +46 8 7575550 S-164 80 Stockholm, Sweden | mailto: magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Audio/Video Transport Working Group avt@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/avt
- [AVT] Open issue on hdrext draft Tom Taylor
- Re: [AVT] Open issue on hdrext draft Dave Singer
- RE: [AVT] Open issue on hdrext draft Imed.Bouazizi
- Re: [AVT] Open issue on hdrext draft Magnus Westerlund
- [AVT] Re: Open issue on hdrext draft Tom Taylor
- Re: [AVT] Open issue on hdrext draft Dave Singer
- Re: [AVT] Open issue on hdrext draft Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [AVT] Open issue on hdrext draft Cullen Jennings
- Re: [AVT] Open issue on hdrext draft David R Oran
- Re: [AVT] Open issue on hdrext draft Tom Taylor
- Re: [AVT] Open issue on hdrext draft Dave Singer
- Re: [AVT] Open issue on hdrext draft Magnus Westerlund