Re: [AVTCORE] [MMUSIC] New Version Notification for draft-dawkins-avtcore-sdp-rtp-quic-00.txt

Spencer Dawkins at IETF <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com> Sun, 30 January 2022 00:31 UTC

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From: Spencer Dawkins at IETF <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2022 18:30:41 -0600
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Subject: Re: [AVTCORE] [MMUSIC] New Version Notification for draft-dawkins-avtcore-sdp-rtp-quic-00.txt
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H, Christer,

(following up on AVTCORE)

On Sat, Jan 29, 2022 at 9:35 AM Christer Holmberg <
christer.holmberg@ericsson.com> wrote:

> Hi Spencer,
>
> Please remember to check whether there are any BUNDLE impacts. Section 9
> of BUNDLE contains RTP considerations for BUNDLE, so I suggest to check
> whether there is anything that needs to be updated/modified for QUIC usage.
>

Thank you! I'll create an issue for this in Github so we don't forget to
check.

Best,

Spencer


> Regards,
>
> Christer
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* mmusic <mmusic-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Spencer Dawkins at
> IETF <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, January 28, 2022 9:34 PM
> *To:* IETF AVTCore WG <avt@ietf.org>
> *Cc:* MOQ Mailing List <moq@ietf.org>; mmusic WG <mmusic@ietf.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [MMUSIC] New Version Notification for
> draft-dawkins-avtcore-sdp-rtp-quic-00.txt
>
> Dear AVTCORE (with MMUSIC and MOQ cc:ed, but please follow up to AVTCORE),
>
> I had been working on a draft describing SDP for RTP over QUIC, and after
> the AVTCORE co-chairs said that it was appropriate to discuss RTP over QUIC
> proposals in AVTCORE, I conferred with the AVTCORE and MMUSIC co-chairs
> about where my draft should be discussed. As I described in the draft,
>
>    With the concurrence of the AVTCORE and MMUSIC working group co-
>    chairs, this document should be discussed in the AVTCORE working
>    group, in the same venue where RTP over QUIC proposals are being
>    discussed.  When proposals for RTP over SIP have stabilized in
>    AVTCORE, this document will be sent to the MMUSIC working group for
>    review by SDP experts, but SDP-specific comments are welcomed at any
>    time.
>
>    Readers are also invited to open issues and send pull requests with
>    contributed text for this document in the GitHub repository at
>    https://github.com/SpencerDawkins/sdp-rtp-quic
> <https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=31323334-501d5122-313273af-454445555731-6b23c2fb2dd81c1d&q=1&e=88dc547f-b64f-4d4c-870d-b93be8a1d8d0&u=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2FSpencerDawkins%2Fsdp-rtp-quic>.
> The direct link to
>    the list of issues is https://github.com/SpencerDawkins/sdp-rtp-quic/
> <https://protect2.fireeye.com/v1/url?k=31323334-501d5122-313273af-454445555731-d9b6cc4eeb6e8227&q=1&e=88dc547f-b64f-4d4c-870d-b93be8a1d8d0&u=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2FSpencerDawkins%2Fsdp-rtp-quic%2F>
>    issues.
>
>
> One of the reasons that I focused on the SDP early on, is that it has
> helped me identify open issues that have popped up in various discussions.
> I should mention that I'm especially interested in feedback on
> https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-dawkins-avtcore-sdp-rtp-quic-00.html#name-an-aside-on-secure-avp-prof
> .
>
> Happy reading, and I hope to discuss this further at the upcoming AVTCORE
> interim meeting on 15 February..
>
> Best,
>
> Spencer
>
> On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 10:53 AM <internet-drafts@ietf.org> wrote:
>
>
> A new version of I-D, draft-dawkins-avtcore-sdp-rtp-quic-00.txt
> has been successfully submitted by Spencer Dawkins and posted to the
> IETF repository.
>
> Name:           draft-dawkins-avtcore-sdp-rtp-quic
> Revision:       00
> Title:          SDP Offer/Answer for RTP using QUIC as Transport
> Document date:  2022-01-28
> Group:          Individual Submission
> Pages:          13
> URL:
> https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-dawkins-avtcore-sdp-rtp-quic-00.txt
> Status:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dawkins-avtcore-sdp-rtp-quic/
> Html:
> https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-dawkins-avtcore-sdp-rtp-quic-00.html
> Htmlized:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-dawkins-avtcore-sdp-rtp-quic
>
>
> Abstract:
>    This document describes these new SDP "proto" attribute values:
>    "QUIC", "QUIC/RTP/SAVP", "QUIC/RTP/AVPF", and "QUIC/RTP/SAVPF", and
>    describes how SDP Offer/Answer can be used to set up an RTP
>    connection using QUIC as a transport protocol.
>
>    These proto values are necessary to allow the use of QUIC as an
>    underlying transport protocol for applications such as SIP and WebRTC
>    that commonly use SDP as a session signaling protocol to set up RTP
>    connections.
>
>
>
>
> The IETF Secretariat
>
>
>