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Re: [AVTCORE] Call for Adoption: Multiplexing Scheme Updates for QUIC

Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net> Tue, 04 August 2020 01:47 UTC

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Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2020 11:46:45 +1000
From: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>
To: Justin Uberti <juberti@google.com>
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Subject: Re: [AVTCORE] Call for Adoption: Multiplexing Scheme Updates for QUIC
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On Sat, Aug 1, 2020, at 03:43, Justin Uberti wrote:
> If the goal is to be able to mux QUIC and TURN channels on the same 
> 5-tuple, I imagine that we'd probably want to first design some sort of 
> new QTURN that uses QUIC to address TURN's many shortcomings (e.g., 
> TURN authentication).

That seems to be the goal for MASQUE, but we'll see.

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