[AVTCORE] Roman Danyliw's Abstain on draft-ietf-avtcore-rtp-scip-05: (with COMMENT)
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Subject: [AVTCORE] Roman Danyliw's Abstain on draft-ietf-avtcore-rtp-scip-05: (with COMMENT)
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Roman Danyliw has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-avtcore-rtp-scip-05: Abstain When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/handling-ballot-positions/ for more information about how to handle DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-avtcore-rtp-scip/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMENT: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Thank you to Magnus Nystrom for the SECDIR review. I am abstaining on this document as it is unclear to me how to evaluate this document. It frames itself to be a “RTP Payload Format” document which seemingly has many analogs in the IETF stream. For example: -- RFC4578 (RTP Payload Format for H.261 Video Streams) -- RFC6184 (RTP Payload Format for H.264 Video) -- RFC7587 (RTP Payload Format for the Opus Speech and Audio Codec) -- RFC7798 (RTP Payload Format for High Efficiency Video Coding (HEVC)) -- RFC9134 (RTP Payload Format for ISO/IEC 21122) -- draft-ietf-payload-vp9 (RTP Payload Format for VP9 Video) -- draft-ietf-avtcore-rtp-v3c (RTP Payload Format for Visual Volumetric Video-based Coding) However, unlike all of the other recent “RTP Payload Format” document I could find, the text here avoids making a normative reference to a document formally describing a payload. Colloquially, I’m not sure how one can describe the “payload format of _something_” without normatively citing that _something_. Furthermore, the security basis for this document comes from this informative reference. In my assessment, this approach meets the DISCUSS criteria of “[t]he draft omits a normative reference necessary for its implementation, or cites such a reference merely informatively rather than normatively” per https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/iesg-discuss-criteria/#stand-disc. However, I won’t hold a document for reference mismatch. Additional comments ** I would have appreciated additional justification for the proposed standard (PS) status either in the text or in the shepherd write-up. The underlying codec is proprietary, neither available or intended for users outside of a closed consortium; and the need for standardization isn’t clear since this is intended for this closed consortium. MIME registrations can be done without a PS in the IETF stream. ** Section 1. This document provides essential information about audio/scip and video/scip media subtypes that enables network equipment manufacturers to include settings for "scip" as a known audio and video media subtype in their equipment. This enables network administrators to define and implement a compatible security policy It wasn’t clear which text in this document was intended to inform the definition of security policies. ** Section 5.1 and 5.2. The IANA review will clarify this, but the stated “Intended usage” of “Common, Government and Military” doesn’t seem consistent with the guidance in RFC6838 which says that: Intended usage: (One of COMMON, LIMITED USE, or OBSOLETE.) ** Section 5.1. and 5.2. I concur with Francesca’s ballot which wonders why the IETF is registering a media type for which it has no change control and the challenges it might create.
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