Re: [AVT] RTP: When to turn off RTCP reception reports
Jonathan Rosenberg <jdrosen@dynamicsoft.com> Wed, 08 January 2003 04:08 UTC
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Subject: Re: [AVT] RTP: When to turn off RTCP reception reports
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I concur. -Jonathan R. David R. Oran wrote: > I believe the new wording is an improvement and support including it in > the RFC. > > Dave. > > --On Tuesday, January 07, 2003 4:04 PM -0800 Stephen Casner > <casner@acm.org> wrote: > >> Numerous times we have had discussions on this mailing list regarding >> whether sending RTCP is "required". We've answered with the reasons >> behind both SR for data senders and RR for receivers. >> >> Igor Curcio cited the specific paragraph that appears both in Section >> 6.2 of the RTP spec and in Section 1 of draft-ietf-avt-rtcp-bw-05.txt >> regarding the ability to turn off RTCP RRs by allocating zero >> bandwidth for them, and asked that we clarify there that, in general, >> RTCP reports should not be turned off. I've added text in the RTP >> spec to do this. If you all agree that this is a good addition, I >> will ask the RFC Editor to insert it into rtcp-bw as well. >> >> -- Steve >> >> OLD: >> >> Using >> two parameters allows RTCP reception reports to be turned off >> entirely for a particular session by setting the RTCP bandwidth for >> non-data-senders to zero while keeping the RTCP bandwidth for data >> senders non-zero so that sender reports can still be sent for inter- >> media synchronization. This may be appropriate for systems operating >> on unidirectional links or for sessions that don't require feedback >> on the quality of reception. >> >> NEW: >> >> Using >> two parameters allows RTCP reception reports to be turned off >> entirely for a particular session by setting the RTCP bandwidth for >> non-data-senders to zero while keeping the RTCP bandwidth for data >> senders non-zero so that sender reports can still be sent for inter- >> media synchronization. Turning off RTCP reception reports is NOT >> RECOMMENDED because they are needed for the functions listed at the >> beginning of Section 6, particularly reception quality feedback and >> congestion control. However, doing so may be appropriate for systems >> operating on unidirectional links or for sessions that don't require >> feedback on the quality of reception or liveness of receivers and >> that have other means to avoid congestion. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Audio/Video Transport Working Group >> avt@ietf.org >> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/avt > > > ------------------------ > David R. Oran > Cisco Systems > 7 Ladyslipper Lane > Acton, MA 01720 > Office: +1 978 264 2048 > VoIP: +1 408 571 4576 > Email: oran@cisco.com > _______________________________________________ > Audio/Video Transport Working Group > avt@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/avt > -- Jonathan D. Rosenberg, Ph.D. 72 Eagle Rock Ave. Chief Scientist First Floor dynamicsoft East Hanover, NJ 07936 jdrosen@dynamicsoft.com FAX: (973) 952-5050 http://www.jdrosen.net PHONE: (973) 952-5000 http://www.dynamicsoft.com _______________________________________________ Audio/Video Transport Working Group avt@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/avt
- [AVT] RTP: When to turn off RTCP reception reports Stephen Casner
- Re: [AVT] RTP: When to turn off RTCP reception re… David R. Oran
- Re: [AVT] RTP: When to turn off RTCP reception re… Jonathan Rosenberg