Re: [AVT] draft-ietf-avt-app-rtp-keepalive

Xavier Marjou <xavier.marjou@orange-ftgroup.com> Fri, 24 September 2010 12:49 UTC

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I have just posted an updated version of the draft with a TCP timeout of
7200 seconds and no indication about DCCP timeout.
This is inline with you first two comment below, as well as with the
feedback from the BEHAVE WG.

For RTCP, the original idea was indeed to make recommendations when RTCP is
not used. This raised a lot of concerns during the IESG review. The
discussion during the newt IETF (IETF-77) resulted in recommending only
RFC5761 and "only" recommending other mechanisms. This was reflected in
version -08 and was not changed in today's -09 version.

Cheers,
Xavier


On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 10:07 PM, Cullen Jennings <fluffy@cisco.com> wrote:

>
> With regrades to the a few of the discuss on the 08 version of this draft
>
> For the TCP timeout, I recommend 7200 seconds. This matches the TCP keep
> alive used by default by many OS and will work well with the case I am aware
> of.
>
> For the DCCP timeout, I would suggest we have pretty much zero experience
> with firewalls and NATs with DCCP support so it would be premature to
> recommend anything here and we should make no recommendation for DCCP.
>
> For the topic or RTCP being out of scope. I would point out RTCP has
> existing ways of regularly sending packets covered by the RTCP spec and this
> specification makes no changes to theses.  I'm not disagreeing with Magnus,
> just saying that the RTCP is not a problem, it's the RTP we have problems
> with.
>
> I note that the WG had recommendation for what to do when the RTCP could
> not be used but the IESG has removed theses. This seems critical given the
> fact that a larger percentage of the deployed equipment does support RTCP. I
> think the specification needs to add back in what to do when there is not
> RTCP support or it needs to be brought back to the WG for discussion.
>
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