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Re: [AVTCORE] [MMUSIC] SDP Directorate review: draft-ietf-avtcore-cryptex

Paul Kyzivat <pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu> Tue, 14 June 2022 14:06 UTC

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Subject: Re: [AVTCORE] [MMUSIC] SDP Directorate review: draft-ietf-avtcore-cryptex
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Christer,

On 6/14/22 4:53 AM, Christer Holmberg wrote:

>> What would be the best term for a "media m-line"?
>>
>> - media m-line
>> - media m line
>> - media "m=" line
> 
> My suggestion would be to say "m- lines for RTP transported media", or something like that, because technically you could transport media also using non-RTP mechanisms.

During the discussions around rfc4566bis/rfc88666 we had a long 
discussion on "m line" vs. "m- line" vs. "m= line", ... We finally ended 
up going with: "m=" line.

I think it would be best to stay with that.

	Thanks,
	Paul

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