Re: [AVTCORE] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC4585 (3313)

Alan Clark <alan.d.clark@telchemy.com> Sun, 04 November 2012 18:39 UTC

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Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2012 13:39:19 -0500
From: Alan Clark <alan.d.clark@telchemy.com>
To: Magnus Westerlund <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com>, "jo@acm.org" <jo@acm.org>
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Subject: Re: [AVTCORE] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC4585 (3313)
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Magnus

I also recommend that the proposed change is approved

Regards

Alan


On 11/4/12 1:36 PM, "Magnus Westerlund" <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com>
wrote:

> WG,
> 
> I have reviewed this errata and it appears correct. I would recommend
> that it is approved. Additional views on this? Please provide any
> feedback within a week, after that I will instruct the ADs to approve
> this errata.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Magnus
> 
> On 2012-08-11 16:57, RFC Errata System wrote:
>> 
>> The following errata report has been submitted for RFC4585,
>> "Extended RTP Profile for Real-time Transport Control Protocol (RTCP)-Based
>> Feedback (RTP/AVPF)".
>> 
>> --------------------------------------
>> You may review the report below and at:
>> http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=4585&eid=3313
>> 
>> --------------------------------------
>> Type: Technical
>> Reported by: Mo Zanaty <mzanaty@cisco.com>
>> 
>> Section: 4.2
>> 
>> Original Text
>> -------------
>>       rtcp-fb-ack-param  = SP "rpsi"
>>                          / SP "app" [SP byte-string]
>>                          / SP token [SP byte-string]
>>                          / ; empty
>> 
>> 
>> Corrected Text
>> --------------
>>       rtcp-fb-ack-param  = SP "rpsi"
>>                          / SP "app" [SP byte-string]
>>                          / SP token [SP byte-string]
>> 
>> 
>> Notes
>> -----
>> RFC 4585 defines and allows generic NACK (with no further parameters) but not
>> generic ACK (which always requires further parameters). Section 4.2 says:
>> ...
>>       Parameters MUST be provided to further distinguish different types
>>       of positive acknowledgement feedback.
>> ...
>>       The feedback type "nack", without parameters, indicates use of the
>>       Generic NACK feedback format as defined in Section 6.2.1.
>> ...
>> The ABNF incorrectly allows nothing after "ack", implying that generic ACK is
>> valid. Even the approved errata, which replaces the invalid empty alternate
>> with optional [], still allows nothing after "ack". Note that recent interest
>> in RTP congestion control (e.g. RMCAT BOF) may lead to defining a standard
>> ACK.
>> 
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>> 
>> --------------------------------------
>> RFC4585 (draft-ietf-avt-rtcp-feedback-11)
>> --------------------------------------
>> Title               : Extended RTP Profile for Real-time Transport Control
>> Protocol (RTCP)-Based Feedback (RTP/AVPF)
>> Publication Date    : July 2006
>> Author(s)           : J. Ott, S. Wenger, N. Sato, C. Burmeister, J. Rey
>> Category            : PROPOSED STANDARD
>> Source              : Audio/Video Transport
>> Area                : Real-time Applications and Infrastructure
>> Stream              : IETF
>> Verifying Party     : IESG
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