Re: [babel] Adding two babel milestones

Juliusz Chroboczek <jch@irif.fr> Fri, 28 May 2021 12:00 UTC

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Subject: Re: [babel] Adding two babel milestones
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> In my view, having multicast support in Babel would be quite cool just
> for this use case. I know people who do this with spanning tree today
> (although the chances of them switching to Babel are slim).

I think it could be a lot of fun if done in collaboration with someone
actually doing large-scale video distribution.  Not so sure about
implementing multicast in isolation and hoping it gets adopted.

-- Juliusz