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David Schinazi <dschinazi@apple.com> Wed, 11 April 2018 16:19 UTC

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Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2018 09:19:38 -0700
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> On Apr 11, 2018, at 05:50, Juliusz Chroboczek <jch@irif.fr> wrote:
> 
>> 1) babel-hello-[mu]cast-history is an implementation detail documented
>> in an appendix, should it be exposed?
> 
> It's a useful piece of data when debugging issues with wireless links --
> it's easier to understand than the xxcost values.  It's optional in
> Barbara's model, so implementations can ignore it if they don't use
> a Hello history.
> 
> I argue for keeping it (as optional).

Fair enough. That works for me.

David

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