[BEHAVE] AD review of LSN requirements draft
Wesley Eddy <wes@mti-systems.com> Thu, 31 May 2012 04:19 UTC
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Subject: [BEHAVE] AD review of LSN requirements draft
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Hi, I've completed an AD review of the LSN requirements draft. I think it's generally in pretty good shape, but do have some comments that we should at least talk about before going forward. This could require a small update. I also understand from the mailing list that Simon has a proposed reversal of one of the previous changes, and I think he's totally correct. So, we should get a revision anyways before moving on. Here are my comments: (1) it strongly seems like RFC 6264 should be mentioned here; it would probably work in the 2nd paragraph of the Introduction about providing IPv6 services alongside IPv4 CGN (2) it seems like it should be really clear in section 1 that this document isn't considering multi-subscriber IPv6 NPT or dual layers of IPv6 NPT as being a CGN, only multi-subscriber IPv4 NAT and dual layers of IPv4 NAT (3) Note that the sub-requirements for individual NAT behavior RFCs are labelled "REQ-1", "REQ-2", etc. duplicatively with the higher-level REQ-1, REQ-2, etc. (4) Several of the requirements have "SHOULD" in them, which makes them more of a recommendation than an actual requirement (those are MUSTs!); if we want to retain "SHOULD"s, then we probably need to suggest why they aren't MUSTs by giving some cogent example of a case where it would be acceptable not to implement the feature. (this applies to the SHOULD NOTs as well) (5) Should there be a requirement to support use of the prefix allocated via RFC 6598? (6) I think it would be good to have an advisory reference to the issues in: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-donley-nat444-impacts-03 and whether or not following the recommendations in this document helps to avoid such issues. The RFC 6269 reference already in the introduction is okay, but it probably glosses over this topic too quickly. (7) I suspect that we should be more clear in the abstract and introduction that this is not an IETF endorsement of CGN or a real specification for CGN, but rather just a minimal set of requirements that we believe need to be followed for implementing CGNs on the Internet; CGNs are still not something we have consensus on being desirable for the Internet. -- Wes Eddy MTI Systems
- [BEHAVE] AD review of LSN requirements draft Wesley Eddy
- Re: [BEHAVE] AD review of LSN requirements draft Dan Wing
- Re: [BEHAVE] AD review of LSN requirements draft Simon Perreault
- Re: [BEHAVE] AD review of LSN requirements draft mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [BEHAVE] AD review of LSN requirements draft Wesley Eddy
- Re: [BEHAVE] AD review of LSN requirements draft Simon Perreault