Re: [BEHAVE] [v6ops] New Version Notification for draft-momoka-v6ops-ipv6-only-resolver-00.txt

Momoka Yamamoto <momoka.my6@gmail.com> Sat, 08 October 2022 17:58 UTC

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Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2022 02:58:33 +0900
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Subject: Re: [BEHAVE] [v6ops] New Version Notification for draft-momoka-v6ops-ipv6-only-resolver-00.txt
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re: Mark Andrews 's comments
> this is yet another example of why DNS64 should be made historic.
> This is requesting even more support to work around problems introduced
by DN64, a poorly thought out, supposedly short term hack.

We did not write this draft thinking DNS64 has a problem.
We thought that IPv6-only iterative resolvers not existing because of
IPv4-only authoritative servers is a problem, and wanted a way to solve it
from the resolver side and not only from the network side (e.g. using
464XLAT).

On Fri, Oct 7, 2022 at 2:47 PM Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org> wrote:

> While we (ISC) have been working on this for years <
> https://gitlab.isc.org/isc-projects/bind9/-/merge_requests/2166>, this is
> yet another example of why DNS64 should be made historic.  This
> is requesting even more support to work around problems introduced by
> DN64, a poorly thought out, supposedly short term hack.
>
> It is NOT needed with 464XLAT, DS-Lite and other transition technologies
> where the IP stack maps
> from IPv4 to IPv6 or the CPE maps from IPv4 to IPv6.
>
> Additionally this is an indication the BCP91 is now out of date.  Best
> current practice has been
> to operate dual stack servers for many years now.
>
> Mark
>
> > On 7 Oct 2022, at 16:12, Momoka Yamamoto <momoka.my6@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have submitted an informational draft that describes resolvers
> performing IPv4 to IPv6 translation to send queries to IPv4-only
> authoritative servers.
> > We thought it would be beneficial to document that we can operate a
> resolver with only an IPv6 address if we utilize the NAT64.
> > Despite that it is stated in BCP91 [RFC3901], "every recursive name
> server SHOULD be either IPv4-only or dual stack."
> >
> > Since this is more related to IPv6/IPv4 translation I have submitted the
> draft to the v6ops wg,
> > but because this is DNS related I would very much appreciate it if I
> could have comments from the dnsop list as well.
> >
> > Momoka. Y
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> > From: <internet-drafts@ietf.org>
> > Date: Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 2:17 AM
> > Subject: New Version Notification for
> draft-momoka-v6ops-ipv6-only-resolver-00.txt
> > To: Momoka Yamamoto <momoka.my6@gmail.com>, Toyota Yasunobu <
> yasnyan@sfc.wide.ad.jp>
> >
> >
> >
> > A new version of I-D, draft-momoka-v6ops-ipv6-only-resolver-00.txt
> > has been successfully submitted by Momoka Yamamoto and posted to the
> > IETF repository.
> >
> > Name:           draft-momoka-v6ops-ipv6-only-resolver
> > Revision:       00
> > Title:          IPv6 only iterative resolver utilising NAT64
> > Document date:  2022-10-05
> > Group:          Individual Submission
> > Pages:          9
> > URL:
> https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-momoka-v6ops-ipv6-only-resolver-00.txt
> > Status:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-momoka-v6ops-ipv6-only-resolver/
> > Html:
> https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-momoka-v6ops-ipv6-only-resolver-00.html
> > Htmlized:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-momoka-v6ops-ipv6-only-resolver
> >
> >
> > Abstract:
> >    By performing IPv4 to IPv6 translation, IPv6-only iterative resolvers
> >    can operate in an IPv6-only environment.  When a specific DNS zone is
> >    only served by an IPv4-only authoritative server, the iterative
> >    resolver will translate the IPv4 address to IPv6 to access the
> >    authoritative server's IPv4 address via NAT64.  This mechanism allows
> >    IPv6-only iterative resolvers to initiate communications to IPv4-only
> >    authoritative servers.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > The IETF Secretariat
> >
> >
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