Re: [bess] John Scudder's Discuss on draft-ietf-bess-evpn-oam-req-frmwk-08: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

[Donald Eastlake <[e-mail]>]

Hi John,

I've posted -09 which should resolve your DISCUSS and COMMENTs.

Thanks,
Donald
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On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 1:38 PM John Scudder <[e-mail]> wrote:

> Thanks for hopping threads, I shoulda caught that last one. Your proposed
> change looks fine, I’ll remove my DISCUSS in anticipation of you issuing a
> new version. (One nit on your new text, “in order maximize” should be “in
> order to maximize”.)
>
> —John
>
> On Apr 12, 2021, at 1:03 PM, Donald Eastlake <[e-mail]> wrote:
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> [External Email. Be cautious of content]
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> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Apr 7, 2021 at 10:04 PM John Scudder via Datatracker <
> [e-mail]> wrote:
> >
> > John Scudder has entered the following ballot position for
> > draft-ietf-bess-evpn-oam-req-frmwk-08: Discuss
> >
> > ...
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > DISCUSS:
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> >
> > Section 2.3:
> >
> >    EVPN Network OAM mechanisms MUST provide in-band monitoring
> >    capabilities. As such, OAM messages MUST be encoded so that they
> >    exhibit identical entropy characteristics to data traffic in order
> >    that they share the same fate.
> >
> > It’s not obvious to me what you mean by “identical entropy
> characteristics to
> > data traffic”. Surely, different flows may have different entropy
> > characteristics, so, *which* data traffic? Similarly, with which data
> traffic
> > are you saying the OAM messages must share fate?
>
> I guess when you changed your COMMENT to a DISCUSS it creates a new thread
> so I should reply here as I did to this when it was a COMMENT:
>
> How about something more like:
>
> EVPN Network OAM mechanisms MUST provide in-band monitoring capabilities.
> OAM messages SHOULD be encoded so that they exhibit similar entropy
> characteristics to data traffic in order maximize the fate sharing between
> OAM and data.
>
>
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > COMMENT:
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Thanks for the clear and readable document. I have one nit and one
> question.
> >
> > 1. Section 1, nit:
> >
> > “EVPN is an Layer 2” s/an/a/
>
> OK.
>
> Thanks,
> Donald
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