Re: [bess] Ben Campbell's No Objection on draft-ietf-bess-pta-flags-03: (with COMMENT)

Eric C Rosen <erosen@juniper.net> Wed, 04 May 2016 20:49 UTC

Return-Path: <erosen@juniper.net>
X-Original-To: bess@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: bess@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55E7A12D84E; Wed, 4 May 2016 13:49:04 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -1.903
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.903 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=junipernetworks.onmicrosoft.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Qn2Esghe8foQ; Wed, 4 May 2016 13:49:02 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from na01-by2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-by2on0140.outbound.protection.outlook.com [207.46.100.140]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B255712D805; Wed, 4 May 2016 13:49:02 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=junipernetworks.onmicrosoft.com; s=selector1-juniper-net; h=From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version; bh=HFPEJzt9R3YoIYDfUdLsuyHoHL7BQXfe7XBCNjRAen0=; b=kssQs6kRhJCg4UvI/Nm/ZgbywnVNz59nkDR1vneZ40noPELl+qLKbkCVqgDm07L0wZcdMEj77Irxfij4k0GRJPh0v07wibB1SxJfDjpmM+dN/DHx4J8fhc/JYQUdHM+9/5bWQwhpZnqfRuFTeTALcf0OK9SDNKeuOSY0QXz9C0I=
Authentication-Results: juniper.net; dkim=none (message not signed) header.d=none;juniper.net; dmarc=none action=none header.from=juniper.net;
Received: from [172.28.32.177] (66.129.241.14) by BY2PR05MB790.namprd05.prod.outlook.com (10.141.225.20) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.485.9; Wed, 4 May 2016 20:49:00 +0000
To: Ben Campbell <ben@nostrum.com>, The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>
References: <20160503224830.8329.81275.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com>
From: Eric C Rosen <erosen@juniper.net>
Message-ID: <6dc68acc-e244-9788-11be-7a8caa4ea759@juniper.net>
Date: Wed, 04 May 2016 16:48:56 -0400
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.0
MIME-Version: 1.0
In-Reply-To: <20160503224830.8329.81275.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; format="flowed"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Originating-IP: [66.129.241.14]
X-ClientProxiedBy: DM2PR10CA0077.namprd10.prod.outlook.com (10.141.241.45) To BY2PR05MB790.namprd05.prod.outlook.com (10.141.225.20)
X-MS-Office365-Filtering-Correlation-Id: 499c5a72-c7c5-4a90-22fc-08d3745d85db
X-Microsoft-Exchange-Diagnostics: 1; BY2PR05MB790; 2:FTKpN/ki9yOV6BYk1PzCXGFsdC+MJK5y8WCq2kXs2n8WcANRpC8evAGls8WCQOimGf1YsDyNgCrFEwDOgHhnNhi1tRIthQYZENcAc3QxTOkB7k6cZYm0HB3FC6OVZZPO9ilchf1z6kJ0lQjPWy/aDLxEbaPQ5u3QnY6+vNcQtnV7Weh/iv5ISFMM4LUmk43E; 3:KXMtC/UIYk7puqMZqS56va2eCHGjdcSUNX/C0U5c0POqqS1eV7os+kNqOhXi9SaCjBNGMSSKPRfTGSldE2ycIYmIk/hom88499lLKrSnYS1TkzalTVX0K90KnvEQwzGn
X-Microsoft-Antispam: UriScan:;BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:BY2PR05MB790;
X-Microsoft-Exchange-Diagnostics: 1; BY2PR05MB790; 25:56HfmeRY7u0EaQdR5rfIgAWhoUHLfZ4bW7aZ++KbGqdCue5EL4bXNWtrhbW7nXUwnAlKVXlqi2vH9hAaMOmfKh2Xw1BxoeT1BOopn/82+6cN4yUyDGmb6FfcPdYylT6SDdFCQkYY6TyvtvSqx7Hq096fa+5SweInl/btQ4y5/Et/JglqYwNzL+FaQlkCJ2XT2mbdrZaK67ZOS3DKkpOgMih+fm9MvJ4VV8+ZRC8Bqil45o3n84AYNyyvdY8OkjtJ86YwKX5RtG7z59Vogvj045GYbybjjgONIBazaIFPRVyID3gOSu2y5ucYF27766tkU/Nqz8RpbiiHLtAQvP3SytIIg6Z4cYP1Hrcbn8D+qnVzM/tAYHhwqnlDF0jGYlb2rRH1PVmoz9YDh1c0norCbq5T9jWxk9oQoBSy6dco6F0pbb0K1nVc1rgScLbOA3YpaHEuOHpFaMSkJARI/jgW8DDk7Y1MMCtl+jYiwd6RrJeKKtcxfBABW3d5B5MWSvynds43mmpIfdC6Gl3+tCTjF07hqj+4nqo1G7xSyU2/BV/CJbOhioL6iYTIGiSBP5pPsfbSShLL64yI0betbG70BYg0oAwyXRmaWt60bgEjFMeRDFez+y0it1N5mAQfhLRTzwq6pNGWpgv40KxupBIrJTSshjMviGDR5fkUStEJigUoSj7WcYBv18BUGR5I0NyNLzW6yGT9bkAwn4EAzEonl3/HW9lcAtoUxHGvOXk2aoPTF0UJuz4ngJYRkI5AdhaAbQGNDMdjZE2VlBcFijOfUw==
X-Microsoft-Exchange-Diagnostics: 1; BY2PR05MB790; 20: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; 4:gJ8kZ6tEfYtGmXlq1Vrn86EH24kW1er1kD0kUYU77ee9wm1nnzcc7h1+Kk1J8kVm5bgCZvD8R80RZo+H7GyEHlwzlh0g0ygcCOWR/4G7geWtURgYA5FxF1c97E8xJJFGi17Hq8c+id4QdUbjH0e+Txa7+9ZIdF0/SajsSr3PaHwn3wnzUvgpEalewUIzJxiPXP9g6LLQpMEMhVpM4YQ0xhduD+wl4S1j4EIA7U0dtMvikq8dAhZrWajuwu+Oh0D4EYkeeg9nRXaKnwxQxr6hThTecIb0lQr9Ycu8er4IfNrBi4Scq1Ed/jXLCidHpUX04S513IfJuNXZVtG50Dsbxb3NvzbLYHyit2BI7KbX5w5tcVdLceEukfwPEaVkKS5aNMe7JKIc3VoS4eujCyMua8mNIfE6UCyuqg5RrR71D4HUDAFW1SiVYfza2mfzHqw2
X-Microsoft-Antispam-PRVS: <BY2PR05MB790351FDF601A78809DE64CD47B0@BY2PR05MB790.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>
X-Exchange-Antispam-Report-Test: UriScan:;
X-Exchange-Antispam-Report-CFA-Test: BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(9101528026)(9101521098)(601004)(2401047)(5005006)(8121501046)(3002001)(10201501046)(6055026); SRVR:BY2PR05MB790; BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:; SRVR:BY2PR05MB790;
X-Forefront-PRVS: 093290AD39
X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10019020)(4630300001)(6049001)(6009001)(51444003)(24454002)(377454003)(50466002)(36756003)(64126003)(83506001)(92566002)(5008740100001)(81166005)(42186005)(5001770100001)(230783001)(86362001)(189998001)(2906002)(33646002)(230700001)(50986999)(31686004)(47776003)(65956001)(77096005)(54356999)(76176999)(31696002)(5004730100002)(6116002)(586003)(3846002)(4326007)(23746002)(2950100001)(65806001)(65826006); DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:BY2PR05MB790; H:[172.28.32.177]; FPR:; SPF:None; MLV:sfv; LANG:en;
X-Microsoft-Exchange-Diagnostics: 1; BY2PR05MB790; 23: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
X-Microsoft-Exchange-Diagnostics: 1; BY2PR05MB790; 5:xPxDivFGJt+fckT7yOeuboY0DW8q7JC7TpXnE3J9JdW49GdFhaQrbo2CX+3nWW+AdNUyaBRR9VRc1JnrmupxCXsQz3KocY0tBRESuq8Ts0RNdf7goCkbnKWyZZg/MN8ANb8VFTM+WxNB11n6+YL6HQ==; 24:WFQfEyP8jLjJA3G6UgQnAtsm2r8fToftKQ5PJXKspNwwqwksPSHcZW26sn1Wj+/fAjijI89eDs+Q945MHRy6iq6a4SFUHghnpMHaBW4gJ1E=; 7:pSRPP5WlHq4rQI58062gMcQ3o/cHQ5dn5htU/Hi11pF/tBBbruq2gqnsK3GhDl7P5APiRw1QhHwWD+rqCylDleU2sBVccOIYJ/JUo8kyk4Iwb2CRY0E8T5jIMNQ4raFdDb9LXTvVJsVDllDI3WFzMaKV5Yj3VGLB0MZJEsLPIM0=
X-OriginatorOrg: juniper.net
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 May 2016 20:49:00.4164 (UTC)
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-FromEntityHeader: Hosted
X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: BY2PR05MB790
Archived-At: <http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/bess/4fwwc_jNrlew5CujEv2Ht843q1g>
Cc: draft-ietf-bess-pta-flags@ietf.org, aretana@cisco.com, bess-chairs@ietf.org, martin.vigoureux@nokia.com, bess@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [bess] Ben Campbell's No Objection on draft-ietf-bess-pta-flags-03: (with COMMENT)
X-BeenThere: bess@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17
Precedence: list
List-Id: BGP-Enabled ServiceS working group discussion list <bess.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/bess>, <mailto:bess-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/bess/>
List-Post: <mailto:bess@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:bess-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bess>, <mailto:bess-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 May 2016 20:49:04 -0000

On 5/3/2016 6:48 PM, Ben Campbell wrote:
> I am curious why the
> "Additional PMSI Tunnel Attribute Flags" registry needs a
> standards-action policy. It's pretty obvious why for the main flag
> registry, due to the small value-space. Are people concerned that the
> Additional flag will also run out of space?

Yes, I think that is an issue.  48 flags may sound like a lot, but the 
existing 8 flags got used up fairly quickly and suddenly; one draft 
grabbed four flag bits.  So FCFS doesn't really seem like an appropriate 
policy here.   The other possible policies are all subject to politics, 
but at least Standards Action comes with early allocation.